Iggy Azalea: Scarface is still a black man with music content, dont blame white execs

[shopthatwrecks]

didnt nobody put a gun to face head

 

[Marciano]

She made some points, especially with the whole Illuminati nonsense

 

[tirademode]

Is B-Real a fraud to you too?

Interesting point . However that's more of a change of pitch than accent . Plus he came up in the culture.

 

[havoc]

She made some points, especially with the whole Illuminati nonsense

 

[Momentum]

Jazz is going to come back

 

[Mac Casper]

i can understand ur point but rappers from around the world rap in their own accents, granted they'll probably never make it in an American market but that's how they get accepted in their own country.

this chick just screams that she wants to be anything else other than who she really is

All of those rappers would trade their left pinky toe to be accepted in the American markets, hip-hop is an American culture. It's suppose to be world-wide but we're not open to those accents

 

[Woodrow]

who told her it was ok to have an opinion?

 

[rapbeats]

Dont compare the film industry and the nusic industry, those are two very different entities. There are serious racial issues when it comes to Hollywood, that is an undeniable fact. But music is different. Even though its a business at the end of the day, the power is more in the artists hands.

White people dont lock black people out of indie rock, or electronic music. And conversely, black people for the most part dont try to lock whites out of hip hop. Its just a vocal, internet based minority that wont shut the fukk up.

anyways my point is music is open everyone.

Its true to an extent that when it comes to POP MUSIC, demographics and all that stuff come into play. But thats the only type of music that has to do with business and image then art.

If were talking about hip hop as a form of self expression... at the end of the day its open to anyone. And its been like that for a while.

no one said "lock white folks out" did face say that? NOPE. face said whats going on right now. they are intentionally only allowing IGNANT foolishness out from black artists. which will result in a sea of people moving over to something of somewhat substance here comes Macklemore. not saying mack has anything to do with it. he's just doing him. that doesnt mean he isnt a pawn in a old white man's game of chess. wake up. and stop acting like everything aint what it seems. its 2013. these things are no longer some crazy conspiracy. you've seen enough to know whats real.

again face stated, there was a time when you had all sorts of hiphop from black artists. now the only hiphop the masses are hearing is the IGNANT hiphop. until mr white guy Macklemore comes along. and all of a sudden its okay to be non IGNANT? so are you trying to tell face there are no highly talented rappers that have passed thru those labels walls with music of substance in the past 3 years, prior to Macks ascension? me nor face is buying that nonsense. sorry folks, you have been setup. you have been duped. we just got played and hustled. Woody from white man can't jump can ball. stop playing dumb people.

 

[up in here]

combined....

wayne
Ross
Kanye
Jigga
50
Nas
Right now Kendrick

and any number of 2nd tier artists like Future and 2Chains

and any number of third tier up and comers that have signed million dollar deals seemingly out of nowhere like A$AP, Trinidad James and Chief Keef and them...

would disagree with you on the fact that whites get more financial backing than blacks in hip hop. You think Macklemore, Mac Miller and MGK getting more money from the labels than them nikkas?

really.

It's been like this since this shyt started. Once every 5-10 years or so, there's one or two white artists that climb out of what cats call the "Underground with all them other white backpackers" and they blow up.

They're followed by a bunch of other white rappers as record labels and other black mega popular rappers try to find their own white artists and make it stick.

Every time this happens, a bunch of black people inside AND outside the industry jump up and claim it's "The Death Of Our Culture. White People shouldn't rap! because Blah Blah blah........."

It's happening right now.....

It happened when Kreay had that ONE HIT....

It happened when Eminem blew up and all those cats like Bubba Sparxx showed up outta nowhere...

It happened when.... okay it didnt happen with Paul Wall. Cause fukk... it's PAUL WALL. He's blacker than 90% of coli faux nikka coli posters.

It happened when House of Pain was rapping

It happened when 3rd Bass was rapping

It happened when Vanilla Ice was rapping.


Did "our" culture die then? NOPE.


And what kills me the most is white people were rapping THE WHOLE TIME.

You think nikkas were crying about "The Death of the Culture" when The Beastie Boys were the 2nd highest selling rappers on the face of the earth behind Run DMC? How about when Rick Rubin was producing all of their shyt?

You think SCARFACE HIMSELF was complaining about white people in hip hop when MIKE DEAN was producing shyt on DAMN NEAR EVERY TEXAS RAP ALBUM?

What about all those white underground backpacking tin foil hat rocking MCs? Does anybody claim "They Stealing Our Culture" when Jedi Mind Tricks or The DemiGodz or Ill Bill or Cage or ANY of them cats pick up a mic?

NOPE. Cause you're not worried about them selling. You make fun of them.

NONE OF THAT shyt IS HARMFUL TO THE CULTURE OF RAP/HIP HOP.

Wanna know why!?

Hip Hop, the rapping, breakdancing, graph writing, DJing... was NEVER a "Black Culture" thing. It was an INNER CITY YOUTH thing.


Whats harmful to OUR (black) culture is that we'll jump behind a lil monkey nikka that we KNOW is fukking it up for how we're perceived AND our youth, won't support shyt else, celebrate his success and then cry on some sucker shyt when a white man raps about some second hand clothes and goes number 1.

you're using floored logic.

firstly, wayne, Ross, Kanye, Jigga, 50, and Nas all debuted in a time when records were still selling and money was still being made in mass amounts so album budgets were bigger. you cant compare the financial support they got compared to today's artists because the industry has changed.

second, Kendrick, Future, 2 Chains, A$AP and Chief Keef all had hits/buzz independently and well known mixtapes before they got them million dollar deals. Thats the difference, Iggy Azalea didnt have any buzz before getting signed. She got signed and then the label spent money and paired her up with TI to create some interest. Think about it, what is she know for? what has she accomplished? did she have some stand out feature or mixtape or any type of recognition before she got signed? hell no. she got that deal on the strength of the white girl gimmick. every rapper has a gimmick to a degree and its fallacious to ignore race as a factor when talking about this chick.

third, yes there were also latino's in the beggining of hip-hop but hip-hop music specifically was known to be a Black music form, thats why Prince Whipper Whip (the first latino rapper) hid the fact that he was Pueto-Rican in the beginning because hip-hop music was recognized as a Black thing. Technically hip-hop culture as a whole embraced diversity in b-boying, graph and even DJing to an extent but MCing was always a Black expression/art form.

forth, yes there have been white rappers/rap groups breaking through every now and again, but they were always very respectful to the Black artists that paved the way and they always acknowledged that hip-hop music is a Black art form that they are happy to participate it. also, Eminem always acknowledged his race as a major factor of his success with both negatives and positives. he never played dumb when it came to his race. The current trend towards people saying "hip-hop is not Black, everyone can rap" is bullshyt and is culture stealing.

Yes Black culture is much bigger than hip-hop, however, hip-hop music is one of many Black American art forms and is a part of Black culture, history and expression. The reason Black art forms are important to us is because unlike other ethnic groups, much of our culture and history was taken away from us during slavery. Yes we know we are African, however, we dont know which specific countries or cultures we come from and in alot of cases we aren't able to trace our history. We dont have any other cultural self identity. So the artforms and culture we create aren't just entertainment for us, they are part of our self identity. So when people try to take away the artforms we create and make them open for everybody, essentially they are taking away a part of us. imagine taking pizza and saying "its not Italian, its for all people because all people can make pizza", thats the same thing you are doing by denying hip-hop's place within Black culture. you are eliminating part of our story and identity. even if we dont agree with the images and stereotypes promoted in hip-hop music, it is still ours. thats why the commercialization of hip-hop is problematic, because it is part of our culture, part of who we are, and it is in the hands of corporations who do not have us in their best interests, all they care about is profits.

 

[DontEemTry]

Nas already cosigned her so yall need to fall back

 

[ThaRealness]

no one said "lock white folks out" did face say that? NOPE. face said whats going on right now. they are intentionally only allowing IGNANT foolishness out from black artists. which will result in a sea of people moving over to something of somewhat substance here comes Macklemore. not saying mack has anything to do with it. he's just doing him. that doesnt mean he isnt a pawn in a old white man's game of chess. wake up. and stop acting like everything aint what it seems. its 2013. these things are no longer some crazy conspiracy. you've seen enough to know whats real.

again face stated, there was a time when you had all sorts of hiphop from black artists. now the only hiphop the masses are hearing is the IGNANT hiphop. until mr white guy Macklemore comes along. and all of a sudden its okay to be non IGNANT? so are you trying to tell face there are no highly talented rappers that have passed thru those labels walls with music of substance in the past 3 years, prior to Macks ascension? me nor face is buying that nonsense. sorry folks, you have been setup. you have been duped. we just got played and hustled. Woody from white man can't jump can ball. stop playing dumb people.

Macklemore plays into the internet culture in a way that other rappers dont. For all this talk about black rappers not getting shine like him.. Ive yet to hear any black rapper make a song thats a straight up meme like Thrift Shop.

Keep in mind that this is an audience that couldnt get enough of "gangnam style"

How did you rope me into a convo about mainstream success anyways? I told you were talking about hip hop not pop. You really dont get how music works these days... using terms like "the masses".... do you know what "the masses" consists of these days? Its tweens... everything that charts on the billboard hot 100 caters to tweens.

You guys dont know it but this whole conversation mostly pertains to what tweens are listening to

Real music is now completely seperate from Pop nowadays.

Now if you wanna have a conversation about why Popular Hip Hop, not Pop music, is so dumbed down, thats a different issue... one which has nothing to do with race, or industry executives...

Chief Keef blew the fukk up making the dumbest music ever and he had no sort of label backing him.

 

[atlbound]

still no pictures of her butthole? *leaves thread*

 

[Grifter]

still no pictures of her butthole? *leaves thread*