Illmatic is overrated compared to other hip-hop albums

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Illmatic is overrated as hell. Production is good and sounds ruff in some areas. Most of the songs sound the same, and his lyricism is all over the place (and not in a good way)

this isn’t a topic saying it’s shyt, because I don’t feel that way about the album at all.

But for me personally it’s not even top10. That honour goes to It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, or Straight Outta Compton. Everything about those two albums just stunned me, and made me think “wow!” when I first listened to them, from the lyrics, to the attitude, to the hard hitting beats. I love the jazzy sound on Illmatic and the way Nas tells stories about growing up in New York, but the stuff Public Enemy and N.W.A. did on those records was almost lifechanging for me and no other Hip-Hop albums have had the same impact on me personally.

I like nas as a rapper but illmatic is mad overated son....not a lot of standout tracks tbh
 

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At that time of age the Hiphop/Rap scene wasn't as big as it is now. That album was something nobody created in terms of production and lyrics, it was top notch for the time, something nobody heard of. Even till this day no rapper can recreate the cohesion that album put out.
 

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At that time of age the Hiphop/Rap scene wasn't as big as it is now. That album was something nobody created in terms of production and lyrics, it was top notch for the time, something nobody heard of. Even till this day no rapper can recreate the cohesion that album put out.
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But for me personally it’s not even top10. That honour goes to It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, or Straight Outta Compton.

Don't you mean MMLP or TES, Stanley? Or are you just using other cliche old school albums to make yourself seem more reputable?
 
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At that time of age the NEW YORK Hiphop/Rap scene wasn't as big as it was after RTD. That album was something nobody created in terms of production and lyrics, it was top notch for the time, something nobody heard of. Even till this day no rapper can recreate the cohesion that album put out.
 

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Straight Outta Compton is in no way sonically better than Illmatic, how is production rough all the beats on there still sound crisp today which can't be said about many albums from the early 90s. NY State of Mind is just an epic beat, One Love is one of the most beautiful beats ever that xylophone is hypnotic, peep the scratching by Premo and the jazz in beats such as The World is Yours and Life's a bytch.

How was the lyricism all over the place, you not on that Intelictual Reciprocol bullshyt? Illmatic was tight AF, packed with internal rhymes, multis, and just powerful hardhitting rhymes ("that dollar that bought a bottle, could have struck the lotto") NY State of Mind was lyrically murked. :camby: with that BS.

How are there no standout tracks? :wtf: is that supposed to mean? Illmatic is one of the most heavily sampled albums, it's 9 tracks+an intro all the tracks stand out.

This album influenced Jay, Mobb Deep, Tupac, Ghostface and a whole bunch of nikkas from now. Part of the whole East Coast hip hop renaissance and is the most critically acclaimed album ever. Ma nikka you can't rewrite history.
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there is a thread strictly about Illmatic being overrated everyday.

an album that sold 59,000 in its first week gets new threads on the daily almost 20 years after it released...


.... and the why the O.P. praising NWA's basic ass rhymes all over straight outta Compton but look at NY State of Mind like "meh... nothing special"
 
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At that time of age the Hiphop/Rap scene wasn't as big as it is now. That album was something nobody created in terms of production and lyrics, it was top notch for the time, something nobody heard of. Even till this day no rapper can recreate the cohesion that album put out.
nikka were u alive back then? In the streets that album was not considered special IN ANY FORM SHAPE OR FASHION. We had it,nobody i knew had it. 94' was about scarface the diary,thuglife,creepin on ah come up,funkkdafied,regulate.... g-funk era, Ready to die, On the outside lookin in, Southernplayalistic.... Source hyped up illmatic,streets wasnt bumpin like that. Wasnt some "new fresh and exciting event" AT ALL.
 

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Illmatic is overrated as hell. Production is good and sounds ruff in some areas. Most of the songs sound the same, and his lyricism is all over the place (and not in a good way)

this isn’t a topic saying it’s shyt, because I don’t feel that way about the album at all.

But for me personally it’s not even top10. That honour goes to It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, or Straight Outta Compton. Everything about those two albums just stunned me, and made me think “wow!” when I first listened to them, from the lyrics, to the attitude, to the hard hitting beats. I love the jazzy sound on Illmatic and the way Nas tells stories about growing up in New York, but the stuff Public Enemy and N.W.A. did on those records was almost lifechanging for me and no other Hip-Hop albums have had the same impact on me personally.

I like nas as a rapper but illmatic is mad overated son....not a lot of standout tracks tbh
and you have camel on your avi lol how many lines he bite from illmatic LOL
 
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