ILLmatic vs. Tical... Objectively

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  • im a noz stanley and i think illmatic is way better than tical

  • illmatic is slightly better

  • dead even

  • tical is slightly better

  • im a woo stan and tical shyts on illmatic


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Billy Ocean

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Meth one of my favorites and an all time great but this is just blasphemous. You know you gonna have alot of Wu haters coming in here just to shyt on Meth now right, Zeb? As a fellow Wu stan why would you do that?
 

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Meth one of my favorites and an all time great but this is just blasphemous. You know you gonna have alot of Wu haters coming in here just to shyt on Meth now right, Zeb? As a fellow Wu stan why would you do that?
to expose the nas stanleys that dont respect anything but illmatic

people tryna act like illmatic is some untouchable album when there were 5 nyc debuts on par THAT YEAR

yet people wanna pretend its leaps and bounds better than sun rises in east, ready to die, tical, etc. r2d AND tical were more popular THEN and are still just as good NOW. this revisionist nas shyt kills me

yea illmatics better but tical is a great album (for the heads who cantdont read), 4-4.5 mic DEF yet people act like its a 1 mic album vs illmatic. shyts garbage. ill take 3-4 of the first wu albums over illmatic everyday of the week. illmatic has 6 PERFECT songs versus albums with 15 bangers and prolly the same amount of perfect joints. cuban linx blows it away and has DOUBLE the material

theres nothing blasphemous about it imo. tical has 3-4 perfect joints and and 7-8 BANGERS. illmatic has 6 perfect joints and 3 "bangers". its a softer more intellectual album vs a fun style based album... it is NOT way better than tical. not in any shape or form. its better... but half a bar better or 1 ATMOST... yet people wan pretend tical is a 2.5 mic album cause i said the word illmatic...

just wan have a discussion but i dont think nas stans can handle that. they think nas is jesus christ of rap and can do no wrong. tical better than every nas album except illmatic and maybe 1-2 others yet meth seen as a dissapointment. dudes UNDERRATED

what are these BAD songs on tical. like i said what the blood clot (still a banger), plo style and method man remix are the weakest joints on the album and that was because of the beats.. theres still 10 other 4-5 mic songs on there. lesser known beats like stimulation, got my thang in action, subcrazy and tical were INCREDIBLE especially for the era. and the flows... noone made it seem so easy

subcrazy
all i need
bring the pain
stimulation
release yo delf
tical

easily in same stratosphere as best songs on illmatic. how couldnt they be when 2 of those songs more popular than EVERYTHING on illmatic. FACT. what i started with is all facts, meth had more charisma and better flows, nas had better lyrics and subject matter. 2 different albums yet one is shyt on and the other heralded...why? if meth added a lil more subject matter like ready2die (which walks that line of flows/lyrics perfectly) would people respect it more? idk

for all those talking shyt.. what are these wack songs on tical.. ill wait.. hope yall aint like sirbatch calling subcrazy and tical WACK.. but i already know cats walkin inhere with their midns made up based on the responses not being able to say which tical songs suck and acting like its some garbage album. my point is its WAY closer than heads realize.
 
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Silly to compare the two. You should be comparing the first generation Wu albums

OB4CL
Liquid Swords
ODB Return to the 36
Ironman
Tical

Something like that?

And Illmatic is better than OB4CL, so.
 
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You lost when you started mentioning ob4cl. What's the matter? Tical ain't got legs of it's own to stand on? :mjlol:
i can make this point with every wu album

talk about these bad tical songs or keep it moving stanley

Silly to compare the two. You should be comparing the first generation Wu albums

OB4CL
Liquid Swords
ODB Return to the 36
Ironman
Tical

Something like that?

And Illmatic is better than OB4CL, so.
so u can only compare wu albums to other wu albums?

illmatic is better than cuban linx how?

by having 7 less songs? and played out tracks like halftime 2 years after it dropped? cuban linx takes a mighty dump on illmatic. another album more popular during the time period that today people act like is less than illmatic.

again

incarcerated scarfaces
ice cream
heaven or hell
glaciers of ice
criminology
northstar
wu gambinos
rainy dayz
verbal intercourse

looks like 10 perfect tracks to me with bout 8 more 4.5-5 mic joints so how illmatic better yet has less perfect songs? and dont BS.. those 10 songs are all 10/10 classics with most of em even being singles. i didnt even bring up knowledge god, guillotine, wisdom body, ice water, can it be so simple remix, knuckle heads, spot rushers... put those 8 vs illmatic its still close. ironman just as many classic songs too.

be consistant

Should have done Illmatic vs. OBFCL instead

its been done too many times. cuban linx destroys illmatic tho. twice as long justr as flawless. if illmatic was 5 mics cuban linx was 6
 
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I dont really like either one all that much.....but the 1st half of tical >>>>>>>>>>>>

the fall off towards the end of the album is monumental....other than Mr Sandman the rest of that shyt is weak
 

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Both are favorite albums of time of mines but I’m from Queens and Illmatic is like a soundtrack to my life, so I’ll go with that. Funny thing concerning this thread is that I was trying to purchase a Japanese import of Tical today.
 

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Silly to compare the two. You should be comparing the first generation Wu albums

OB4CL
Liquid Swords
ODB Return to the 36
Ironman
Tical

Something like that?

And Illmatic is better than OB4CL, so.

Naw. Love Illmatic and Nas the GOAT but Illmatic is not better than Linx. Naw.
 
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