"I'm a rookie and I'm white" - Nik Stauskas
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That's my former Wolverine, CaCnadian ShootingGawd
Because stereotypes do exist whether people want to acknowledge them or not. Hell larry bird even talked about the stereotypes he had to deal with.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Stereotypes do exist but as respects this individual account, how do you know Staukas isn't conflating his rookie experience with *something else*? I don't know about you but when I ball, I focus on the best and worse player, whomever they are.
dennis roadman
nuclear war in my bag
shyt is an outrage brehWhen in the fukk did the media start interviewing Sacramento Kings players?
I do too but let's not act like some people don't rely on stereotypes.
I don't know about you but when I play ball, I focus on the weakest and best players. I don't look at a dude's skin color.
So if you are playing with a group of players who are unfamiliar to you, how you gonna determine who the best/worst players are. You probably relying on stereotypes at some level, yours just aren't skin color based. Get over yourself this shyt aint even serious. You actually have to go out of your way to create controversy here.
Relying on stereotypes is normal human behavior friend.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
What? This is a hot news item; it's already a controversy. So I'm not creating anything, just questioning Staukas' evidence and your persuasive logic accepting his premise. When I've always played, I match up based on size, position, ball handling, etc. As the game wears on it's clear who is better and who isn't -- and guys change who they're guarding based on basketball merits. The assertion that ballers use stereotypes as opposed to tangibles in actual game situations is ludicrous. So without any proof , it appears Staukas is playing the race card. Take away his race and he's still a rookie scorer whose defence was questionable in scouting reports, thus justifying whatever targeting he might get from players. Do corners choose not to cover Decker because he's a cac? No. Every week he's matched up with the corner that best commensurate his value to the team. But following your logic Decker would never get the coverage he receives because of "stereotypes".
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godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Do you honestly believe teams and players are acting on "stereotypes" when they divvy up assigments with the game on the line? Because I don't see it happening in the NFL and there's little reason to believe the NBA is different. Regardless of whatever, players on my team get whatever coverage their impact represents. Decker deservedly gets better coverage than Kerley whom deservedly gets better coverage than Salas and so on. If dudes are choosing their targets based on "stereotypes", I don't see it.
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All I'm trying to say is that until there is better info available, people tend to resort to stereotypes. I agree as time wears on they can rely o things that are more tangible...but coming out of the gate Nik Stauskus is probably looked at as a white rookie by SOME. And some players probably do feel some type of way about him initially, based on stereotypes. If Stauskus is actually sincere about "not wanting anyone to feel sorry for [him]" then I have a hard time with anyone seriously taking offense to what he said. If he's playing the victim then he's being ridiculous and should have people going at him for that. Otherwise he really just stating an uncomfortable truth that both white and black players have publicly acknowledged. White people generally trash at basketball or good at very specific things.
This is a bunch of strawman nonsense. OFC no one believes any of this.
I think you are putting too much into what he said. I just think he means that when he's on the court a player on the opposing team might go harder on him because they think he's soft and slow because he's white. Relax, it's not that serious. Obviously not every player is going to think this and no teams are game planning on attacking him because he's white.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
I assume Staukas is talking about his whole game experience, which implies the players on the opposing team knew about his tangibles while playing him, so as the game wore on, whatever coverage he received became a correction on his contribution to the game.This is the case for all players, including rookies, whom are often worse than other players and thus might receive special attention to take advantage of mistakes. So Staukas' noted experienced can be explained by rookie scorer experience alone, which you still have yet to acknowledge. Instead you harp on allusions. Given Staukas didn't have any inclination he had any proof or sincerity behind his comments, they might just have been word salad from his own head. In pro sports I don't think there's any "stereotyping" that happens in a real game. I don't see it in the NFL. Weddle gets the same routes thrown at as anyone else.
I'm just using logic to explore the issue. If Staukas shows explosion, guys let up on him and he punishes them. If he doesn't, guys attack him and he welts. Coverage adjusts to whatever a player does well--or doesn't-- in a game. So, excluding conjecture and speculation about whether a player might this-or-that, where's the stereotyping?
Bruh you are being obtuse, enjoy yourself.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Don't attack my character, just focus on the argument. Teams adjust to whatever a player is doing or else lose. If what you say were commonplace practice, why can I point to examples of it not happening in the NFL on a daily basis? Pro sports is self-correcting on the field when it comes to these type of things.