Uncle Kendrick
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Once you realize that you are a god and that you control your own reality life begins to make sense.
Im beginning to think god doesnt exist
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God cares about you in the here and now. He cares about your physical welfare and your spiritual welfare both.
But remember that God has a much longer view of the world than you do. He could have created a programmed robot-world, where people were forced to only do good things to each other. But what would be the point of that? It wouldn't be any more significant than writing a video game. Would you want to make love to a woman who was forced to love you, rather than one who chose to love you of her own free will?
The most incredible thing about the world is that people can act out of true free will, even oppose God if they want to. That makes real love and real good possible, along with real hate and real evil.
Of course, it means that really shytty things are possible too. There really is sin in the world, as you are well aware. And it really does fukk up the world.
But remember the long view. You are going to last far more than 30 or 70 or 100 years. In the long run, the suffering of this life is minor compared to the state of a person for all eternity. We can't see the whole picture. Horrific shyt might happen to a child now due to human evil, but God may redeem that child's eternity.
What we do know, right now, is that God has made those of us who follow Him the agents of His good here and now on Earth. Any failures to bring that out are our failures. Those in this thread who criticize God for not doing good when they have failed to do good themselves are hypocrits only hoping to justify their own lack of meaning.
Remember, if there really were no God, then why would "doing something good" really be considered better than doing something evil? We're all just randomly-created assortments of particles, right? So why even chose to be "good" rather than "bad", why even care if "evil" is done, if those facing the evil are all just random particles and the evil party is a deterministic meaningless thing that couldn't help it anyway.
But you know that's bullshyt. You know that doing good really is better than doing evil, and that your life and the life of others actually means something. That's part of why you really do know that God is there and wants the best for you and from you.
notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
The visual cortex, impossible colors, extraocular motility...
Science has a vast understanding of sensory that extends beyond what humans are capable of sensing via the human body.
There are things that are detectable, simply not by human sensory units such as eyes, ears, etc that we know exist.
So to limit what 'exists' to what you can detect is folly.
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
I'm actually quite happy with how things are. I don't attribute my success to a higher being, I worked for that shyt.
My belief is that we should make the world a better place, starting with being better to ourselves and renouncing old ass bullshyt that directly contradicts modern society and the laws of nature.
As hard as this might be to believe, I don't believe in a higher power. I'm not big enough of a narcissist to actually believe that this entire universe was made for us. Even if we weren't here the universe would exist, black holes sucking in matter, stars exploding, galaxies colliding..
We're basically a large scale equivalent of what happens when you leave food out for too long without refrigerating it. But you can keep believing in a creator who made everything and then left forever, leaving you to your own devices despite somehow loving you, and also getting mad if you do something he doesn't approve of, DESPITE him knowing every single thing you will do in your lifetime.
Like a director getting mad when actors perform his script to the letter.
Fair point. I'm of the opinion, though, that the only time it's reasonable to believe something is when it can be detected...when it can be demonstrated to exist. Otherwise, you open yourself up to a plethora of things that could exist but humans can't detect...yet.
Mr.Big Meat McGee
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Free Will is the ultimate blessing and curse.
Renegade47
Superstar
bruh, havent you heard? hes just testing you
he works in mysterious ways
You're thinking for yourself instead of staying a sheep, that's good.
joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
Hold up there a minute, good sir. I feel obliged to inform you that Heaven is actually hotter than Hell.damn devils
enjoy hell eternal after you die
HEAVEN IS HOTTER THAN HELL
The temperature of heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is the Bible, Isaiah 30:26 reads,Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days.Thus, heaven receives from the moon as much radiation as the earth does from the sun, and in addition seven times seven (forty nine) times as much as the earth does from the sun, or fifty times in all. The light we receive from the moon is one ten-thousandth of the light we receive from the sun, so we can ignore that. With these data we can compute the temperature of heaven: The radiation falling on heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation. In other words, heaven loses fifty times as much heat as the earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation(H/E)4 = 50
where E is the absolute temperature of the earth, 300°K (273+27). This gives H the absolute temperature of heaven, as 798° absolute (525°C).
The exact temperature of hell cannot be computed but it must be less than 444.6°C, the temperature at which brimstone or sulfur changes from a liquid to a gas. Revelations 21:8: But the fearful and unbelieving... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, which is 444.6°C. (Above that point, it would be a vapor, not a lake.)
We have then, temperature of heaven, 525°C. Temperature of hell, less than 445°C. Therefore heaven is hotter than hell.
Ima be in hell doin my thang with the breh satan while you stuck up in heaven, forever sweating, no weed no drank no p*ssy, and stuck with conservative ass white christians that stan trump
notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
Right, but do not improperly label what we as humans cannot detect with being 'undetectable'.
Radiation, odorless gases, impossible colors, microbes, wavelengths.... there are numerous things that exist that the human body cannot detect.
So there are things all around you as you type that are right there that u are oblivious to.
Thats all I mean.
So the 'show me god' argument is stupid. Thats all I'm saying.
Cause there is a long list of already verified things you can't see.
Right, well it's not just a matter of being able to see something. Humans might not be able to detect something with our senses alone, but we have created tools and discovered things we weren't previously aware of.
Extend that to the god question. There are people who swear to know god exists, speak to him/her/it, feel it's presence, etc. I suppose it differs from individual to individual, but what is the methodology, or what are the tools they are using to verify this?
And I don't think people usually mean they have to see god in order to believe, but they would like some sort of demonstrable evidence. Like, you don't see air, but you see it's effects. Non-believers would like to know how they know these things they attribute to a god are actual from said god. Answers are usually something like "how else could it have happened?" or "you just have to have faith", which is fallacious, circular reasoning.
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notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
You misunderstand god as it relates to faith. Or faith in general.
If god is said to have created everything, than anything at all would be evidence of it.
A religious person might point to a rock or a tree or a cat and say thats evidence.
So faith is the only thing a human possesses which can confirm or denounce its existence.
Its a precluded matter really.
Either you believe in a thing or you do not.
Evidence does not make a thing real or not.
Despite their existing many examples of incredible inconsistancy people will belueve what is most convienient. Otherwise their world collapses.
Its like explaining to a vegan that there are plants that eat meat.
Their rote life becomes a lie if they acknowledge it... so they cannot accept it, evidence or not.
People that believe there is no god want to believe that.
People that believe there is a god want instead to believe that.
So each does.
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