Im beginning to think god doesnt exist

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And if he does, he doesn't really care about us down here.

What other reason could it be for the suffering and sin that we are susceptible to. Why must a child starve? Murder? Rape? What is the reason for these things?? I have asked God and Jesus to enter my heart and soul, because I would like to experience the relationship that my pastor describes having with them, you know when you walk up to the altar but to no avail. I never heard from these nikkas. Sometimes I wish God never created me. If God knows the future it he says that I will go to he'll, why the fukk create me in the first place??
The priniciple of balance and polarity...both have to coexist...laws of the universe... If there was no north, south couldn't be explained... Ask yourself how can I spirit experience physical pain once it leaves the body..it can't...heave and hell are here on earth..
 

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These mateys believe in God, they ain't no real atheists. Look how much they bytch about white supremacy and the black community. Human rights are complete nonsense without a concept of a supreme being/divine system humanity is responsible to for their actions.

Most people are hopelessly stupid and don't deserve life, much less a living wage, affordable health care and housing, and not to have their feelings hurt online. I like my chick's dog more than most people.
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I didn't limit it to what's detectable by human senses.No equation could ever predict gods existence either.

You did you simply don't realize it.

By requiring proof of any sort you have narrowed the spectrum to what human sensory and by extension the human brain can process.
That excludes any number of things from what you can ever 'believe' as they are outside your grasp. Most likely any higher idea or function is far outside of this, baring god, time travel, paradoxical interplay, etc.

Anything really that man has a weak understanding of you have closed your mind to without even realizing merely by the burden of proof you impose.

But statements like 'no equation ever' are grossly ridiculous once you understand the nature of time... or even how math itself works.
There is an equation right now that verifies god's existence it merely isn't solved.

x = (god exists)

Math is very direct.
Given enough time, all things are possible.
The only way conclusively to determine that x will not be solved for is when everyone and everything ceases to exist.
As long as there is a tomorrow the possibility remains. This is the nature of time and possibility.

Jaden Smith tried to tell y'all but everyone just made fun of his shirt-dress. :welp:
 

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And if he does, he doesn't really care about us down here.

What other reason could it be for the suffering and sin that we are susceptible to. Why must a child starve? Murder? Rape? What is the reason for these things?? I have asked God and Jesus to enter my heart and soul, because I would like to experience the relationship that my pastor describes having with them, you know when you walk up to the altar but to no avail. I never heard from these nikkas. Sometimes I wish God never created me. If God knows the future it he says that I will go to he'll, why the fukk create me in the first place??
nothing wrong with feeling this way. its human nature. what is wrong when you go on thecoli looking for answers.

So here's your answers. you may not like them. but these are the answers. and you have to click the link and read ALLLLL of it. dont skim. dont be lazy if you actually WANT TO KNOW WHY and understand WHY these things occur. if you pull a lazy move and dont read or skim thru it and get a half understand thats on you. again the below quote is only a small portion of the answer. click the link for the entire breakdown.


5. The Fall of Man in God's Perfect Plan

The Fall of Man in God's Perfect Plan

Introduction
A few years ago, Delta Flight 191 crashed at Dallas-Fort Worth airport killing scores of people and injuring others. Pieces of wreckage were carefully removed and stored for further analysis. Since that time, the cause of the crash has been the focus of extended research, analysis, and even litigation. Understandably, the cause of such a tragedy is of great concern.

Few could deny that something seems desperately wrong with the world in which we live. This very day Kurdish people endure unimaginable suffering at the hands of the Iraqi army and even of nature itself. Innocent children starve to death. The Nazi regime cruelly slaughtered millions of Jews not so long ago, while the world knew better and chose to look away. Rampant crime, cruelty, corruption, and injustice exist side by side. Pollution, nuclear waste, disintegration of the ozone layer, acid rain, and a host of other maladies are bringing the earth itself to the brink of disaster. Among the informed, little optimism remains.

The desperate plight of our planet has convinced some that there is no God. Those who do believe in a God find God somehow responsible for all that is painful. They think God is either cruel or that He is not in control. But God is in control. His perfect plan does include the suffering and agony we see all about us. In answering “What in the world is going on?”, another question must be asked and then answered: “What in the world went wrong?” That question forms the basis of our lesson.

In this lesson we will trace sin and suffering to its earthly origins and causes. God’s Word clearly and emphatically tells us why the world is in such a pathetic plight: By divine permission Satan tempted Adam and Eve; they sinned, and God has graciously pronounced upon all creation a curse for which He has provided the cure.

We begin our study at the outset of human history as recorded in the first few chapters of Genesis. We will consider the biblical account of creation, the fall, and its consequences for mankind. We will show how the fall fits into God’s plan for man up to the present. Turning to the final chapters of the Bible where God concludes His plan for creation, we will see how the fall of man played a major role in the carrying out of God’s plan.

[paste:font size="4"]The Scene is Set: 39 is not the purpose of chapters 1 and 2. Rather, their purpose is to set the scene for the fall of man, a major turning point in the history of creation.



A FEW MORE CLIFF NOTES. again do not use these cliffs as all the info you need. Go to that link above and read the entire thing so you can understand the context of everything. once you read this info. you will have one or two thoughts. its all BS or its legit and wow this is still a tough spot to be in. The truth is we inherited our forefathers sins, even though at that time we were not born and did nothing to cause that original sin. but it is fair, since if our forefathers would not have sinned we would've inherited a sinless earth and all that comes with that. but even then we were not born at that time so we would not have EARNED it. So since we dont have to earn the riches, we dont have to earn the poor house. thats why its fair.

1) The fall seems to take place early, quickly, with no resistance at all. Paul’s description of his struggle with sin in Romans 7 evidences a very real struggle. Genesis 3 appears to have no struggle at all. Neither Eve nor Adam raise so much as one word of protest or argument against Satan. They appear to be easy prey for his cunning attack. One would have expected Eve to at least have said something like, “Well, what do you know, a talking snake. Adam, come over here. You’ve got to see this!” It all happened so fast, so easily. Even in his unfallen state, man was no match for the wiles of Satan.

(2) Satan and Eve are prominent in the account of the fall; Adam is less prominent. Adam’s sin is more passive in nature, while that of the serpent and Eve is more aggressive. The leader followed, and the followers led.

3) The fall reverses the divinely established order of authority. The “chain-of-command” is God: Adam, Eve, creature (which surely includes the serpent). The order of actions related to the fall are: serpent, Eve, Adam. When God confronts those responsible for the fall, the order is that of His chain-of-command: Adam (verse 9), Eve (verse 13), the serpent (verse 14).40 It is little wonder that the one who rebelled against God’s authority over him (Isaiah 14:12-15;Ezekiel 28:12-15) would seek to overturn God’s order of authority.

(4) Eve was deceived; Adam was not. Eve did not know what she was doing as Adam did. Adam’s sin was the more culpable, both because he was the one who was to lead and because he sinned knowingly rather than ignorantly.41

(5) None of the participants assumes responsibility for their actions, and no one repents of their sin. Rather than assume responsibility for their own actions, Adam and Even passed the responsibility on. From their actions in Genesis 3:7-8 and Job’s statement in Job 31:33, we know Adam tried to conceal rather than confess his sin.

(6) Satan’s deception greatly distorted Eve’s perspective.The God who generously provided all things for Adam and Eve to “richly enjoy” is quickly perceived as a tight-fisted tyrant because one fruit is forbidden. The forbidden fruit was now seen as desirable even though it was deadly. The tree of life was overshadowed by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Eve saw only this one forbidden tree as “good for food” and as a “delight to the eyes,” when in reality every tree in the garden had these same qualities (see Genesis 2:9).

(7) Satan succeeded in persuading Adam and Eve to trust his words, while doubting and disobeying God’s Word. The Word of God which so recently brought the universe into existence (see 1:14) was first questioned and then denied once it forbade the fruit of the forbidden tree.

(8) Man’s disobedience in the garden is the fruit of unbelief, just as his obedience would have been the fruit of faith.
 

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Religion is a coping mechanism for weak people that can't deal with life's adversities and need hope that things will "be better" for them in the afterlife.

Honestly I can judge em, life's tough sometimes and everyone needs a lil hope here and here.

:mjlol: at anyone really believing the bible literally. shyts fair i.e. tale status. Might as well believe in lord of the rings.

For all you religious folk out there, who u think wrote the bible? More importantly, who compiled the exact current format of the book? The book y'all reading is only a few hundred years old :russ:

Smh:mjlol:
 

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You did you simply don't realize it.

By requiring proof of any sort you have narrowed the spectrum to what human sensory and by extension the human brain can process.
That excludes any number of things from what you can ever 'believe' as they are outside your grasp. Most likely any higher idea or function is far outside of this, baring god, time travel, paradoxical interplay, etc.

Anything really that man has a weak understanding of you have closed your mind to without even realizing merely by the burden of proof you impose.

But statements like 'no equation ever' are grossly ridiculous once you understand the nature of time... or even how math itself works.
There is an equation right now that verifies god's existence it merely isn't solved.

x = (god exists)

Math is very direct.
Given enough time, all things are possible.
The only way conclusively to determine that x will not be solved for is when everyone and everything ceases to exist.
As long as there is a tomorrow the possibility remains. This is the nature of time and possibility.

Jaden Smith tried to tell y'all but everyone just made fun of his shirt-dress. :welp:
Upon what basis does your belief exist? What have you experienced that I have not?

That's why agnosticism makes the most sense.You can't hide behind "given time,all things are possible" as proof.At that point I could claim any idea as true.How about fairies that wear cowboy hats and live above your head singing Bob Dylan.All things are possible right? Let's start worshiping those beings living above your head.Why not?

Because the 'god idea' hasn't been proven or predicted,the issue deserves neither belief nor disbelief.It deserves nothing.It's irrelevant.
 

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Upon what basis does your belief exist? What have you experienced that I have not?

That's why agnosticism makes the most sense.You can't hide behind "given time,all things are possible" as proof.At that point I could claim any idea as true.How about fairies that wear cowboy hats and live above your head singing Bob Dylan.All things are possible right? Let's start worshiping those beings living above your head.Why not?

Because the 'god idea' hasn't been proven or predicted,the issue deserves neither belief nor disbelief.It deserves nothing.It's irrelevant.

Thats the fundamental difference.

Proof.

Once you understand the limitations of the human body (the brain included) you understand that proof as man sees it is limited in scope to what man can process. So concepts greater than man cannot be proven to man, because it lacks the capacity to understand the proof.

Its proving 'yellow' to the blind man or proving 'loud' to the deaf man.
These are certainly concepts that exist readily, but to be accepted the recipiant must likewise be qualified to understand the proof presented.

So a human being demanding proof has merely limited the scope and nature of all things it believes to that which exists within the human spectrum.
Since by definition an omnipotent omnipresent eternal clarvoyant formless deity is immensely beyond the scope of human sensory, it is a fordrawn conclusion as to whether the proof can be ascertained.

A rigged system. Pointless.

Thats what I mean by you have limited yourself unknowingly, not any slight toward you personally, merely that the human body almost certainly lacks the capacity to understand things compoundly greater than itself.
 

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Thats the fundamental difference.

Proof.

Once you understand the limitations of the human body (the brain included) you understand that proof as man sees it is limited in scope to what man can process. So concepts greater than man cannot be proven to man, because it lacks the capacity to understand the proof.

Its proving 'yellow' to the blind man or proving 'loud' to the deaf man.
These are certainly concepts that exist readily, but to be accepted the recipiant must likewise be qualified to understand the proof presented.

So a human being demanding proof has merely limited the scope and nature of all things it believes to that which exists within the human spectrum.
Since by definition an omnipotent omnipresent eternal clarvoyant formless deity is immensely beyond the scope of human sensory, it is a fordrawn conclusion as to whether the proof can be ascertained.

A rigged system. Pointless.

Thats what I mean by you have limited yourself unknowingly, not any slight toward you personally, merely that the human body almost certainly lacks the capacity to understand things compoundly greater than itself.
Well,do you believe in god?
 
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