"I'm not a guess in hip hop, it's my culture " - China Mac

[K.O.N.Y]

why are yall confusing this.......

nobody said these nikkaz were playing Caribbean / West Indian music

how many times i gotta say it
they were Bronx nikkaz that happen to be of Caribbean descend

And there are plenty that werent that contributed, so its a moot point to bring up

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Hip/Hop is the musical manifestation of the BLACK experience specifically here in America.

Everybody always want to be all-inclusive only when its purpose is to undermine the ownership of black ingenuity.

You are a guest if you are not black. No exceptions.

If we keeping real G almost all CONTEMPORARY music is the manifestation of the black experience in America (the exception being black music conceived out of the states)

 

[Robo Squirrel]

A Ukrainian and a Chinese man talking about who has a place in hip hop

 

[kingofnyc]

And there are plenty that werent that contributed, so its a moot point to bring up

cause dem 3 nikkaz are & WILL ALWAYZ BE THE FOUNDING FATHERS of Hip Hop


whether u like it or not

 

[kingofnyc]

Cholly Rock who is a 1st generation zulu king said himself, that he an all the black bboy pioneers mostly had stopped by 79/before Sugar Hill dropped






Im talking pre-rap industry



none of those dudes that came from queens and long island wee bboys. They were rappers based on rap the idea of rappers/rap records based on what came out of Harlem and the Bronx. The REAL hiphop superstars were Harlemites (Dj Hollywood pre-rap industry and Kurtis BLow when the rap industry was born)




I got quotes from the actual people who birthed the culture

crazy..... u keep posting vids of Cholly Rock
when he is on record, saying “Herc & the borough of da Bronx” was the 1st to do this thing called Hip Hop

 

[K.O.N.Y]

cause dem 3 nikkaz are & WILL ALWAYZ BE THE FOUNDING FATHERS of Hip Hop


whether u like it or not

dem nikkaz will always be under the umbrella of Afram music culture and influence. Whether you like it or not

 

[K.O.N.Y]

If we keeping real G almost all CONTEMPORARY music is the manifestation of the black experience in America (the exception being black music conceived out of the states)

dap+rep

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

"this shyt is NOT fukkin' ridiculous"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

cause dem 3 nikkaz are & WILL ALWAYZ BE THE FOUNDING FATHERS of Hip Hop


whether u like it or not

I hate to repeat this again but


false......that's that old narrative before more truth started coming to light. Even the words from those 3, reveal truths that have been left out of the history. The people who were there back in the 70's know that typical hiphop origins story is FALSE






Kurtis Blow basically said Herc was full of sh1t and then we hear from Herc's own mouth there were bboys in the early 70's even before he was dj, it 100% backs up what Kurtis Blow already knew/stated

Herc:

When did you start to get involved in it?

I started to get involved in it right after my house got burned down. I was going to parties back then, see. A place called the Tunnel and a place called the Puzzle, right on 161st Street – that was the first disco I used to party at. Me, guys like Phase 2, Stay High, Sweet Duke, Lionel 163 – all the early graffiti writers – used to come through there. It’s where we used to meet up and party at.

Then, years later, [there was this club] called Disco Fever. Disco Fever used to be right here on 167th. But before Disco Fever there was the Puzzle. That was the first Bronx disco.


So back then you still weren’t playing?

I was dancing, I was partying. Right around 1970, I’m in high school.

That was when b-boying was starting?


Yeah, people were dancing, but they weren’t calling it b-boying. That was just the break, and people would go off. My terms came in after I started to play – I called them b-boys. Guys just used to breakdance… Right then, slang was in, and we shortened words down. Instead of disrespect, you know, you dissed me. That’s where that came from.

Red Bull Music Academy Daily

to add to that, kurtis blow says he bboying and hiphop was around in 71 before herc's parties in 73

What do you consider the anniversary of Hip-Hop?

Kurtis Blow: Hip-Hop, to me, started around 1971, 1972. When I was thirteen years old, I gave my first party as a DJ at my good friend - Tony Rome's - 13th birthday party. I put two component sets together (back in the day, a component set was a TV, a radio, an 8 track player and a record player). So I took my mom’s component set and I took it to his house where his mom had a component set. We put both of them together and we had continuous music... and it was awesome. Awesome party. That was way before I knew that there were 2 turntables, and mixing, and continuous music that way. But in '72 I had this idea - We’re going to do this thing nonstop where we wouldn’t have to talk in-between the records and we could just make it happen. And so that was that was the first time I actually DJ'd. I was also was a B-Boy in 1972. But no disrespect to Kool Herc. If we want to claim that the start of Hip-Hop is 1973, I’ll go with it. And big ups to Kool Herc and that very first party, that back to school jam he gave with his sister Cindy back in 1973.

Kurtis Blow | Q&A | Celebrating 40 Years of Hip-Hop | PBS

 

[Bawon Samedi]

ADOS are super creative when it comes to music making abilities. We've shown it time and time again. I think its time we experiment with a new genre and let them just keep Hip Hop. I know many people will call me crazy but Hip Hop has been molested beyond repair by these outsiders.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

crazy..... u keep posting vids of Cholly Rock
when he is on record, saying “Herc & the borough of da Bronx” was the 1st to do this thing called Hip Hop

Hiphop as a full blown culture started in the Bronx. The individual parts started in various parts.

rappers = harlem
early burning/top rocking= brooklyn
down rocking = bronx and harlem
mega soundsytems = queens and brooklyn
club djs with 2 turntables and mixer = harlem

 

[Ish Gibor]

Hip Hop isnt black culture anymore it's global . Hell it was started by a jamaican, isnt that not ADOS by yall logic

Super troll. lol smh

 

[Ish Gibor]

Sad how people are ignorant of Black entertainment culture and history. Anyway, the US mainland has influenced the Caribbean and vice versa.

Why? Because during the '60s, '70s and '80s even '90s we have Pan Africanism going on.

 

[Ish Gibor]

ADOS are super creative when it comes to music making abilities. We've shown it time and time again. I think its time we experiment with a new genre and let them just keep Hip Hop. I know many people will call me crazy but Hip Hop has been molested beyond repair by these outsiders.

No, it's time to stand and fight. And take it all back.

 

[Robo Squirrel]