I'm starting to feel sorry for Playstation gamers

[Smooth3d]

It means that ppl are changing expectations to validate their purchase of their preferred hardware. I remember threads before the consoles were announced and ppl were naming things they wanted for next gen. Many of the XB1 games fall short of those lists.

And sony hasn't? And exactly what has fell short? Im all ears?

 

[daze23]

It means that ppl are changing expectations to validate their purchase of their preferred hardware. I remember threads before the consoles were announced and ppl were naming things they wanted for next gen. Many of the XB1 games fall short of those lists.

I'm not sure that answers my question. but what are some of those 'things'?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

There you go moving goalposts, The point still stands both will sell out this holiday season. A launch games mean a lot to people who want to play games now. Just get a PS4 2 yrs when its heat drops.

And get a xbox when its heat drops...never?

 

[Champion]

There you go moving goalposts, The point still stands both will sell out this holiday season. A launch games mean a lot to people who want to play games now. Just get a PS4 2 yrs when its heat drops.

What goal posts are being moved?
I plan on buying a PS4 eventually and you can ask all the Sony stans how I've repeatedly said both lineups are weak. And I'm really not sure why anyone would compare the 2 launch lineups head to head when everyone with common sense knew the PS4 would have a weak launch lineup a year ago. As a matter of fact Sony has NEVER had a good launch lineup.

 

[VladTheImpaler]

First off, if you didn't care then why the fukk are you in this thread
There's like 30/40 threads on pg.1, what made you click on this thread? You said you don't go to an Audi forum to talk about BMW's all day right?
You are in a "I'm starting to feel sorry for PS gamers thread" and you in it crying about the threads topic
Do you see the contradiction? I bet you don't. Most 3cepts are clueless to the term
Most of you are gonna buy both anyways? Who you know personally on this website to say that?
There was a thread on it, didn't do very well. When are you guys gonna stop saying shyt you have no idea if its true or not? Could you stop that my nikka. I know your furious, but thats no reason to lie bruh
Have a nice day on your way out

PS4 has a better Line-up in terms of more games being available on day 1. Let me repeat that cuz I don't understand it
PS4 has a BETTER line-up in terms of more games being available on day 1
I guess he's implying that because it has more games, its better
We've already been over this, I said I'd GIVE YOU MY COLI CASH IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER LIST.
You wanting it or not is irrelevant because you didn't earn you. You couldn't earn it.
If you did pull up a BETTER line-up, you could have then declined to accept the money and let me keep it
Thats not what happened here. I asked you to back up your claims, you posted a list of games that is so fukking comical that you are losing any credibility you could have had. You have none now.
So unless you back up your claims and produce a list of games so we can know WTF you are talking about?
Or otherwise you will talk around the games, while consistently just blatantly lying saying "Its better on PS4"
Welcome to the club bruh. You've earned it...

I am only getting one nikkas! Damn all this buying both! Nikkas y'all pick one and go!

 

[Champion]

I'm not sure that answers my question. but what are some of those 'things'?

1080p, 60fps.
Its not really a big deal to me but Coli nikkas were saying it should be standard. Fast forward a few months and its a different story.
But hey stans are gonna stan

 

[Smooth3d]

1080p, 60fps.
Its not really a big deal to me but Coli nikkas were saying it should be standard. Fast forward a few months and its a different story.
But hey stans are gonna stan

Want vs reality is two different things. Both console are not 1080p60 standard. At least the X1 has a whole game that is 1080p60 while PS4 only has KZ Mp at 1080p60

 

[-Quikness-]

@PS4

Lmao what is that gif from? I never knew ..

 

[daze23]

1080p, 60fps.
Its not really a big deal to me but Coli nikkas were saying it should be standard. Fast forward a few months and its a different story.
But hey stans are gonna stan

that's not standard on either system. I really don't wanna get too far into that until the systems and games actually come out though. there's already been a few "confirmed" 1080p/60fps games that had to fall back

I thought we were talking about game mechanics that people would expect from next gen games. not the fact that the next-gen would just be like the last one with higher resolution

 

[PS5 Pro]

It's common sense you fukking idiot having more games at launch is beneficial to gamers. Having a variety to play> having to wait for a game like the Wii-u. You're acting like having exclusive games at launch is better than having MORE games at launch . I'll list the games again and we can wager some imaginary coli cash to make you feel better ;

1. Infamous Second Son
2. Dying Light
3. The Witness
4. The Order 1886
5. Drive Club
6. Doki Doki Universe
7. War Thunder
8. War Frame

Most of them are coming out either Q1 or Q2 in 2014. There is still a lot of PS4 games that are still TBA and I haven't mentioned them and are likely coming out in Q2 or Q3 of 2014.

Ok, well first off you say I'll show you launch games, then you proceed to list a bunch of games slated for TBD 2014
Infamous is sometime in 2014
Dying Light is multiplat
The Witness is probably 2015, no gameplay as of today means fall 2014 if you lucky
The Order is in the same boat as The Witness
DriveClub is 2014 cuz it sucks in 2013
Doki Doli Universe tells me you ran out of games
War thunder and War frame

So your telling me those games are better than RYSE, Forza 5, Killer Instinct? No, your 2013-2014 lineup doesn't even beat the xbox launch lineup.
Most of the games you have no idea what the gameplay is like, so its not in the conversation yet. Maybe oneday it'll make it? Maybe it wont. Lair was once a game hyped up, you'd think sony stans would have learned there lesson in acting like games are good because they are exclusive? Who the fukk asked for War thunder or War Frame which is also heading to XB1. Now while your list can't compare to launch XB1 titles imo
You and I have been talking about 2014 since the first time I said a word to you. So if we stop moving goalpost?
Halo 5, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Kinect Sports Rivals, Spark, Quantum Break, Fable, Killer Instinct Season 2.
That lineup doesn't destory any lineup you have made, or can even think up? Really bruh?
You can add Uncharted 4 and Last of Us 2 and it still would pale in comparison to XB1 in 2014
I am not continuing this convo with you anymore, because my point has been proven. There is literally nothing you can say to sway it

1080p, 60fps.
Its not really a big deal to me but Coli nikkas were saying it should be standard. Fast forward a few months and its a different story.
But hey stans are gonna stan

Here's the thing. Your saying Xbots said that when it was SONY who said that. After sony games was known not to reach that, you guys then go "Look xbots what happened" But your fukking stupid
The PS4 is supposed to be 50% stronger than the XB1 yet the only game 1080p/60fps is Flower a PS3 arcade title
See, get your facts straight http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_actively_pushing_for_60fps_1080p_with_ps4.html

Want vs reality is two different things. Both console are not 1080p60 standard. At least the X1 has a whole game that is 1080p60 while PS4 only has KZ Mp at 1080p60

Killzone never reached 60fps on its multiplayer either, it was a target that they failed to reach
And thats funny, because the character models look like they was ripped out of Half-life

 

[Champion]

So you're gonna find some random link on the net and label it as "you guys".

Keep reaching Court.

 

[PS5 Pro]

So you're gonna find some random link on the net and label it as "you guys".

Keep reaching Court.

What are you talking about? You are saying "you guys" by implying Xbots EVER was like "1080p we win"
Sony said that, 3cepts went HAM. Early on it was known that PS4 games will not be 1080p/60fps
The universal response was "Yo, Xbots lost"

I never seen Microsoft say 1080p/60fps is the standard. I heard them say 720p would probably be the standard for a lot of devs because who has TV's higher than 1080p? That standard isn't going anywhere soon. Maybe by 2016 something else might become popular?

I'm trying to figure out how you call that "some random link" when its SONY saying it.
Why are you in denial bruh

 

[Nomad1]

Ok, well first off you say I'll show you launch games, then you proceed to list a bunch of games slated for TBD 2014
Infamous is sometime in 2014
Dying Light is multiplat
The Witness is probably 2015, no gameplay as of today means fall 2014 if you lucky
The Order is in the same boat as The Witness
DriveClub is 2014 cuz it sucks in 2013
Doki Doli Universe tells me you ran out of games
War thunder and War frame

So your telling me those games are better than RYSE, Forza 5, Killer Instinct? No, your 2013-2014 lineup doesn't even beat the xbox launch lineup.
Most of the games you have no idea what the gameplay is like, so its not in the conversation yet. Maybe oneday it'll make it? Maybe it wont. Lair was once a game hyped up, you'd think sony stans would have learned there lesson in acting like games are good because they are exclusive? Who the fukk asked for War thunder or War Frame which is also heading to XB1. Now while your list can't compare to launch XB1 titles imo
You and I have been talking about 2014 since the first time I said a word to you. So if we stop moving goalpost?
Halo 5, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Kinect Sports Rivals, Spark, Quantum Break, Fable, Killer Instinct Season 2.
That lineup doesn't destory any lineup you have made, or can even think up? Really bruh?
You can add Uncharted 4 and Last of Us 2 and it still would pale in comparison to XB1 in 2014
I am not continuing this convo with you anymore, because my point has been proven. There is literally nothing you can say to sway it

Here's the thing. Your saying Xbots said that when it was SONY who said that. After sony games was known not to reach that, you guys then go "Look xbots what happened" But your fukking stupid
The PS4 is supposed to be 50% stronger than the XB1 yet the only game 1080p/60fps is Flower a PS3 arcade title
See, get your facts straight http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_actively_pushing_for_60fps_1080p_with_ps4.html

Killzone never reached 60fps on its multiplayer either, it was a target that they failed to reach
And thats funny, because the character models look like they was ripped out of Half-life

Halo 5 is TBA, Fable is TBA, Sunset overdrive is TBA.... So not showing gameplay means its coming in 2015? The Order 1886 and the Witness are coming Q1 and Q2 2014. Infamous is Q1 2014. I already told you Xbox 1 will have more exclusive games at launch but Ps4 will have MORE games available at launch. Big difference there and if you call yourself a gamer that should be the most important thing. Some of the games you listed have no release window (year) or gameplay so what the fukk you yapping about? . And who the fukk is talking about Lair's garbage ass? PS3 sought better exclusive games than that piece of shyt.

 

[Champion]

What are you talking about? You are saying "you guys" by implying Xbots EVER was like "1080p we win"
Sony said that, 3cepts went HAM. Early on it was known that PS4 games will not be 1080p/60fps
The universal response was "Yo, Xbots lost"

I never seen Microsoft say 1080p/60fps is the standard. I heard them say 720p would probably be the standard for a lot of devs because who has TV's higher than 1080p? That standard isn't going anywhere soon. Maybe by 2016 something else might become popular?

I'm trying to figure out how you call that "some random link" when its SONY saying it.
Why are you in denial bruh

The link says they're actively pushing for it and gives out no guarantees. However, posters on this board were obviously getting caught up in debates and acting like it was expected for whatever reason. Let's not act like ppl weren't expecting it. Then fast forward a few months and some games are struggling to hit 30fps
And are you really trying to say there aren't an abundance of hardware dikk measure contest threads in The Arcadium? :

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think MS has the edge when it comes to games out the gate but imo its nothing that is noteworthy.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Halo 5 is TBA, Fable is TBA, Sunset overdrive is TBA.... So not showing gameplay means its coming in 2015? The Order 1886 and the Witness are coming Q1 and Q2 2014. Infamous is Q1 2014. I already told you Xbox 1 will have more exclusive games at launch but Ps4 will have MORE games available at launch. Big difference there and if you call yourself a gamer that should be the most important thing. Some of the games you listed have no release window (year) or gameplay so what the fukk you yapping about? . And who the fukk is talking about Lair's garbage ass? PS3 sought better exclusive games than that piece of shyt.

1.) The Order and The Witness has no gameplay as of today, and you think its coming out Q1/2 of next year
Can I get a link bruh, most places have it for Dec 30 2014 aka TBD.
The ONLY game you have named that "some" people care about is Infamous. Nothing else is on anyones radar including yours
Once again, my 2014 XB1 lineup cannot be touched. You haven't presented a better lineup. You just naming games you know nothing about, but they AAA titles because why? (wouldn't be because they exclusive would it)
You know, you even forgot to mention Deep Down I know why you forgot to mention it, I seen it
AS for the MORE games at launch? nikka, you named a fukkin PS Vita game, a couple of multiplats. And infamous. Thats your better lineup. Seriously, I'm ignoring you now. Its not fun when my opponent is an imbecile

The link says they're actively pushing for it and gives out no guarantees. However, posters on this board were obviously getting caught up in debates and acting like it was expected for whatever reason. Let's not act like ppl weren't expecting it. Then fast forward a few months and some games are struggling to hit 30fps
And are you really trying to say there aren't an abundance of hardware dikk measure contest threads in The Arcadium? :

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think MS has the edge when it comes to games out the gate but imo its nothing that is noteworthy.

Who was expecting it? We ALL hoped for it I guess, but I don't give a shyt about 720p vs 1080p
I've always argued that there isn't really a difference. Not this night n day noticeable difference.
FACT is unless you sit close to the screen, you can't notice the difference when you sitting on your couch at the average length that people sit from away from there televisions. THIS IS FACT. PC gamers who sit next to there monitors will tell you how they can notice. They can't seem to factor in what I just said into there equations so there replies are usually flawed

Anywayz, Xbots didn't expect anything because Microsoft wasn't going "You should expect this"
Sony was saying that, and I showed you a link proving it. Once Dead Rising was known to be 30fps is when the sony side started going while not even knowing that none of the PS4 games reached that

The hardware dikk measuring contest you are referring to comes from what I just said. 50% stronger
Even multiplats would look like shyt in comparison because a sony dev said that
Xbots couldn't participate in the measuring contest because everything Xbox does 3cepts would just claim it wasn't real. The Cloud making the XB1 stronger over the years, or how the XB1 being balanced is why it'll be more powerful overall. Those are facts if you look at the games. That is my measuring stick.
And now we see the results. Even the makers of Killzone was at the Crytek booth at E3 going "We don't believe your running this on an actual XB1"

So even they was wowed by the power of XB1. If you don't believe what I just said, I got links for days