I'm starting to lean towards Antinatalism

[Take It In Blood]

Creating life without consent is high key immoral and unethical when you really sit down and think about it.




I mean, I wouldn't mind creating life if I could get their consent beforehand. I'm assuming that's pretty much impossible though


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[Majestic]

OP username too real. Take it in blood is the best song on IWW

 

[BigMan]

@BmoreGorilla another one for the list

 

[AlainLocke]

Been one...and yeah in our Western civilization, where everyone has to give consent and rights...

Creating life just doesn't fit in that framework...

 

[BaldingSoHard]

Creating life without consent is high key immoral and unethical when you really sit down and think about it.




I mean, I wouldn't mind creating life if I could get their consent beforehand. I'm assuming that's pretty much impossible though

There's no solution for this so don't waste your time thinking about it.

 

[Take It In Blood]

There's no solution for this so don't waste your time thinking about it.

 

[Rigby.]

I’m assuming this is referring to women not allowing men to decide on abortions

I think it’s fukked men are forced to pay for a kid if a condom breaks, especially if he’s willing to pay for said abortion and it’s very early in development. It’s a lot of pre-requisites though and it’s hard for any court system to manage everything that happened before the fact

 

[OliviaTwist]

I’m assuming this is referring to women not allowing men to decide on abortions

I think it’s fukked men are forced to pay for a kid if a condom breaks, especially if he’s willing to pay for said abortion and it’s very early in development. It’s a lot of pre-requisites though and it’s hard for any court system to manage everything that happened before the fact

No they meant consent from the potential person you’re creating.

 

[Rigby.]

No they meant consent from the potential person you’re creating.

I had to look this nonsense up, so essentially philosophers needed some other nonsense rationalist theory and came up with this? That humans just aint shyt and that there's some intrinsic belief that life could possibly come out not wanting to be birthed?

 

[Neuromancer]

I'm sure there is a way to get consent. I don't have time to explain those possible ways but I do understand OP's issue.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Ehh...depending on your viewpoint, you can’t get consent to create a life.

You gotta do some crazy David Icke shyt or channeling or some shyt.

We gotta think about this when we create AI too

 

[010101]

that's natures trick
if the appetite for sex wasn't so strong
all life would be extinct since forever

*

 

[Take It In Blood]

Ehh...depending on your viewpoint, you can’t get consent to create a life.

You gotta do some crazy David Icke shyt or channeling or some shyt.

We gotta think about this when we create AI too

that's what makes me a hypocrite

because AI fascinates me

That humans just aint shyt and that there's some intrinsic belief that life could possibly come out not wanting to be birthed?

Every individual who has ever committed suicide since the dawn of man has pretty much came to this conclusion.​

 

[Fade Runner 2049]

@BmoreGorilla another one for the list

 

[Concerning VIolence]

I had to look this nonsense up, so essentially philosophers needed some other nonsense rationalist theory and came up with this? That humans just aint shyt and that there's some intrinsic belief that life could possibly come out not wanting to be birthed?

If the world is a struggle to you why bring another life into it?