Imagine 6’9 280 lebron vs this competition.....

[ISO]

It’s not an arbitrary cut off. It was the year they changed the rules. I already posted the article but it’s whatever ninja. I’m out.

fukk Lebulldozer.

Ya article is trash Jordan stan propaganda nobody averaging fukking 50 points today you’d have to monopolize the fukk out the ball.

In the 80’s MJ was getting 37 a game shooting 28 shots getting to the line 12 times. Nobody cried.

In the 80’s Isiah Thomas and John Stockton was getting 14 assists a game. Nobody says shyt nobody says the stats was inflated.

In the 80’s and early 90’s it was several games with 300+ points scored between both teams. Nobody says shyt. Nobody says it was inflated. This is the so called defensive era y’all stan.

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[murksiderock]

Cool but y’all doing the same thing.

You also can’t take players who have 30 years of advancement and drop them into the 80s. The only reason the game is the way it is today is because the game evolved from players from the past.

you either gotta adjust Lebrons style of play to someone from the 80s(like a Barkley or a Dominique) or adjust the Celtics to teams playing elite ball today.

That means turning Larry Bird into a prime Nowitzki who can pass and play D... along with the rest of the Celtics, either way Lebron isn’t dropping 60 on that team so it wouldn’t matter either way.

I agree with this post. Only thing I'll say to the point you don't think Bron would drop 60, is Bron has torpedoed elite defenses many times, you can start with that playoff game vs the Pistons in '07 that he scored like 25 consecutive (?) points or something, and keep going...

Great players would be great players in ANY era and would adjust to the styles of said era. So Bron's game would be different in the sense that it would look more like an 80s style of play than a 10s style of play, but would still be dominant. Whether one personally thinks he's #1 or not is subjective, but it's not debatable that he has an argument as the greatest basketball player ever, and anyone who has an argument as best player ever without question would find a way to dominate ANY era they played in...

There's all kinds of evidence out there that Bron could handle a great defense, he did it in his era, he'd do it in another one...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ninja is literally just posting pictures

People got to look at the 40 and 50 point games for perimeter players pre and post mid 2000s. Pre is was basically just Jordan. Look where we are now.

Apparently even pictures was too deep for you.

5'11", 160lbs, and a completely broke-ass one-handed shot put of a jump shot and he was putting up numbers in the early 1990s.

George Gervin was averaging 33ppg as a wing. Bernard King was averaging 33ppg as a wing. Dominique Wilkins, Adrian Dantley, Mark Aguirre, Alex English, even freaking World B. Free and Kiki Vandeweghe had seasons at right around 30ppg while playing a perimeter style. And in most cases that was without even being able to hit three-point shot either.

Look at MJ in college when teams could hem him up with a zone, and look at MJ in the NBA when he got to exploit man coverage. He said HIMSELF that zone defenses were tougher to score on because they could close off the star players just like happened to him when he played against zones. Players are only beating the zone now by developing freaking 30-foot range and even having 3pt shooting skill at the 4 and the 5, they've literally had to become more skilled in order to deal with more complex and efficient defenses.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

LeBron would legit average more points on that era, and would arguably have more accomplishments.

What the fukk does aesthetics have to do with basketball? Do nikkas put points on the board or not? True, Jordan's game is sharper....but, again, what the fukk does that have to do with ball? You're sitting here and getting mesmerized by another man twirling in the air instead of looking at this from a logical standpoint.

"Longevity stats". What the fukk does this even mean? If it helps you sleep at night, then you're right...

...even though LeBron passed MJ while taking LESS shots

That last sentence is so ridiculous, that I'm not even gonna entertain it.

this nikka deadass pretending like the kindergarten teacher told him to REALLY use his imagination


as far as Bron taking less shots you're not factoring how many more threes Bron shot

Breaking down field goals, free throws and three-pointers

These pie charts basically answer the question: How did they get their points? It shows the career breakdowns for both players, and the percentage of points that came from free throws, two-point field goals and three-pointers.

Mitch Goldich/Sports Illustrated

Their free throw output is very close; Jordan made 7,327 and LeBron has made 7,101.

The key difference is three-point shooting. James has made 1,714 three pointers, while Jordan made just 581. Of course that’s a result of them being products of their era. Jordan was a career 32.7% three-point shooter, while James has made a slightly better 34.4%. If Jordan played today, three-point shooting would likely be a bigger emphasis of his game—more attempts and he probably would have gotten even better at it.

 

[ISO]

Cool but y’all doing the same thing.

You also can’t take players who have 30 years of advancement and drop them into the 80s. The only reason the game is the way it is today is because the game evolved from players from the past.

you either gotta adjust Lebrons style of play to someone from the 80s(like a Magic or a Dominique) or adjust the Celtics to teams playing elite ball today.

That means turning Larry Bird into a prime Nowitzki who can pass and play D... along with the rest of the Celtics, either way Lebron isn’t dropping 60 on that team so it wouldn’t matter either way.

I’m sure Bird would be fine. I believe Luka is a modern version of him.

Jerry Sichting wouldn’t make the league. U show me a 6’1 white American PG in the league.

Bill Walton would really be targeted on the perimeter in today’s game with the injuries he had.

Celtics out here running two big line ups playing out the post playing out the midrange in the halfcourt.

It’s literally guys from back then that would have to reconstruct their whole jump shots and advance their ball handling and shyt forreal.

I respect the legends, the pioneers and shyt. ‘86 Celtics one of the best passing teams ever. One of the great squads in the history of the game. But u can’t just drop them off today it don’t work like that. Anyway the game don’t go backwards. I’d never thought I’d see Stephs, Traes, Lillards pulling shots from 30 feet with efficiency.

The advancement of skill in the game, today’s players commitment to fitness it has to be commended.

 

[High quality poster]

I agree with this post. Only thing I'll say to the point you don't think Bron would drop 60, is Bron has torpedoed elite defenses many times, you can start with that playoff game vs the Pistons in '07 that he scored like 25 consecutive (?) points or something, and keep going...

Great players would be great players in ANY era and would adjust to the styles of said era. So Bron's game would be different in the sense that it would look more like an 80s style of play than a 10s style of play, but would still be dominant. Whether one personally thinks he's #1 or not is subjective, but it's not debatable that he has an argument as the greatest basketball player ever, and anyone who has an argument as best player ever without question would find a way to dominate ANY era they played in...

There's all kinds of evidence out there that Bron could handle a great defense, he did it in his era, he'd do it in another one...

Lebron has one 60 point game against the fukking Bobcats. He’s not scoring those big numbers like that, it’s really not his game.

In what fukking world is Lebron scoring 60 points with Robert Parish and Kevin Mchale protecting the paint?

 

[ISO]

I agree with this post. Only thing I'll say to the point you don't think Bron would drop 60, is Bron has torpedoed elite defenses many times, you can start with that playoff game vs the Pistons in '07 that he scored like 25 consecutive (?) points or something, and keep going...

Great players would be great players in ANY era and would adjust to the styles of said era. So Bron's game would be different in the sense that it would look more like an 80s style of play than a 10s style of play, but would still be dominant. Whether one personally thinks he's #1 or not is subjective, but it's not debatable that he has an argument as the greatest basketball player ever, and anyone who has an argument as best player ever without question would find a way to dominate ANY era they played in...

There's all kinds of evidence out there that Bron could handle a great defense, he did it in his era, he'd do it in another one...

LeBron has played 17 years. He’s played a substantial amount of time at multiple positions 1-4. He’s played at different weights and heights from a 6’7 230 lb. SG his rookie year to a 6’9 270 lb. PF in his peak Miami years. He’s played in multiple eras early-to-mid 00’s dead ball to modern pace and space. He has reinvented his game several times now.

In the 80’s he’d be a hyperathletic Magic Johnson with better shot creation skills and a better jumper.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

LeBron has played 17 years. He’s played a substantial amount of time at multiple positions 1-4. He’s played at different weights and heights from a 6’7 230 lb. SG his rookie year to a 6’9 270 lb. PF in his peak Miami years. He’s played in multiple eras early-to-mid 00’s dead ball to modern pace and space. He has reinvented his game several times now.

In the 80’s he’d be a hyperathletic Magic Johnson with better shot creation skills and a better jumper.

the fukking lies this cat spits out with a straight face


*newsflash* the only position he's ever played is Bron Ball


the whole offense runs through him while he hunts for assists and pads his stats

 

[ISO]

the fukking lies this cat spits out with a straight face


*newsflash* the only position he's ever played is Bron Ball


the whole offense runs through him while he hunts for assists and pads his stats

This is what happens when you don’t understand what’s on the screen.

Lol yeah bro LeBron today plays the same exact way he did in 2003.

 

[Pimp]

That's one way to look at it, you're entitled to have your own perspective...

Another way to look at it is of the guys you listed, only Magic (4), Duncan (4), and Bird (3) won at least 3 chips as the #1 go-to option on a team. LeBron is in rare company when it comes to being The Guy on a championship team, and everyone's career is different. Could LeBron not have won 5 championships like Magic and Kobe if he spent a significant portion of his career playing with another Top 10 All-Timer?

So these things all have nuance, I'm not into viewing guys careers like there aren't a myriad of factors that affect circumstance...

You guys do all this "not a killer" talk but literally everything tangible, and everything in black and white, points to LeBron being more of a killer in the clutch than every single player you listed. So you guys go off of an intangible that you claim LeBron doesn't have, but said intangibles aren't supported by the results of the players you claim are more killers than LeBron...

It's funny how yall hang your hats on the handful of bad games or series Bron has had and talk that shyt up and nauseam.....yet all these players you named, without exception, have examples just like this, and more in most cases, and you guys barely waste your breath on it. Gotta service your agenda though, right?

Yall lose all rationality when it comes to Bron, of the guys you listed only Kareem and Magic have a case as being better players front to back. Everyone else is some wish list shyt that comes out when you want to feed a particular narrative about Bron...

Not reading all that but it's simple. If you have killer instinct and you have all this talent.. You would have dominated this era and won more championships. If you want to talk about leading a team in the finals... Kyrie should have been MVP..

 

[HabitualChiller]

this nikka deadass pretending like the kindergarten teacher told him to REALLY use his imagination


as far as Bron taking less shots you're not factoring how many more threes Bron shot

So, you're saying that he'd still be a worse three-point shooter in this era? I'm not seeing what you're saying because he was a worse shooter from that era, while taking less threes, and with some years being with a shorter line.

Also, what are you saying by mentioning Lebron's exploiting of the 3-ball because you're not helping your case there.

Essentially, LeBron shouldn't be given as much credit because he steadily took a more difficult shot in order to pass Jordan? Read that over to yourself, and tell me if that's an insult or a compliment...

 

[ISO]

If you want to talk about leading a team in the finals... Kyrie should have been MVP..

The most valuable player in that Finals was LeBron though.

One shot don’t determine that god damn you nikkas crazy as hell.

LeBron balled his ass off on both ends and led the Finals in every category and was the vocal leader of the team. LeBron haters are a different breed son.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

So, you're saying that he'd still be a worse three-point shooter in this era? I'm not seeing what you're saying because he was a worse shooter from that era, while taking less threes, and with some years being with a shorter line.

Also, what are you saying by mentioning Lebron's exploiting of the 3-ball because you're not helping your case there.

Essentially, LeBron shouldn't be given as much credit because he steadily took a more difficult shot in order to pass Jordan? Read that over to yourself, and tell me if that's an insult or a compliment...

nikka are you retarded

or are you just sorely lacking in basic comprehension and math

 

[Haliax]

Same era a 30-52 team made the playoffs...but yeah....Kevin Mchale would stop Lebron from eating in the paint

 

[10bandz]

After watching the first two episodes this thread is even more hilarious