imagine if the Nazis got the bomb first

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There would be no Islamic Fundamentalism, the Nazi's wouldnt let that shyt slide...
 

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Hitler believed the exact same thing and didn't giveup until the bitter end. Despite the MILLIONS the Germans murked, they still got a pass from the powers that be. The atrocities the Japs did paled in comparison to the horrors the Nazi's were guilty of. The reality is that many Americans, (including Wilson) were sympathetic to the Nazi government for many years, especially in the late 1930's early 1940's. It really wasn't until near the end of the war when many Americans began to support the idea of openly challenging Nazi Germany
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which country directly attacked the United states?

There was a lot of nazi supporters before and even during the war before US jumped in but the people didn't realize what hitler and the nazi's were doing.


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U really comparing atrocities?

The amount of shyt that Japan did to China during the second Dino-Japanese war is fukking disgusting
 

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which country directly attacked the United states?

There was a lot of nazi supporters before and even during the war before US jumped in but the people didn't realize what hitler and the nazi's were doing.


:comeon:

U really comparing atrocities?

The amount of shyt that Japan did to China during the second Dino-Japanese war is fukking disgusting
So you believe the US dropped a nuke on the Japanese to defend the honor of the unfortunate Chinese?

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One -- fortunately, Germany would never have developed a bomb. They dropped out of the bomb project in late 1942. They believed they didn't have the resources needed to make one, other projects had higher priority, and that if the bomb could be created would take several years of effort, and wouldn't be needed during hostilities anyway because Germany expected to defeat their enemies quickly. Had the Cross-Channel attack not occurred around the time it did, it's quite possible that the bombs would have been dropped on Germany.

Two, Japan wanted a separate peace, not a surrender and subsequent occupation of the country. They rejected surrenders of any kind several times before the bombs were dropped, both from the Allies and from their own diplomats in Europe. It wasn't until the two atomic bombs were dropped and the Soviet invasion of Manchuria that brought them to accept the terms of unconditional surrender from the Potsdam Declaration.

Three, I don't see what dropping the bombs has to do with Russia. Stalin already knew through his espionage networks that Britain and the U.S. were developing atomic weapons, and he used the information his spies harnessed to help Russia build a bomb of his own. Truman even told Stalin at the Potsdam Conference that they had a few bombs that they hoped to use on Japan (Truman knew that Stalin knew that the U.S. had been working on atomic bombs, but not that they were successfully testing them), and Stalin merely hoped that the U.S. would use them. What the U.S. wanted as far as the original plan went was for the Soviet Union to tie down Japanese troops in Manchuria while the Allied forces would invade Japan itself.

Fourth, the bomb saved thousands of lives on both sides. There wasn't only the anticipated invasion of Japan, but continued bitter fighting in Southeast Asia, and the Japanese plan of slaughtering any POWs in their hands had the homeland been invaded. The two bombs and the Soviet invasion prevented all of these from occurring and brought a long and bitter war to a quick and abrupt end.
They surrendered when the soviets invaded Manchuria not because of the 2nd bomb being dropped

Japan was scared shytless of the soviets
 

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Japan did some stupid shyt yes...but there are a lot of sources out there noting that Japan was done. They were probably reeling after the first bomb but i dont know for sure. FWIW, they, alongside Hitler attacking Russia, cost the Axis the war. America was content with just selling guns then the Japs decided to wake the giant just to make some minor gains in the pacific and because they were salty over some industrial trade disagreements. One of the dumbest moves in military history.
I'm saying.

Lets not forget Japan earned that L too.

They're still the most hated country in Asia :pachaha:
 

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only the african holocaust was worse.


we wanted to show russia and others that we mean business and say.... fukk Japanese. We made them our bytches after that.

by We , I mean.. usa
No it wasn't.

Why are you even lying.

The atomic bombs were not THE worst thing.

Did you forget HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED in WWII? Like 3% of the world's population got murked.

Thats INSANE.
 

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the Japs were definitely a diabolical group no doubt, but they were essentially students of Hitler and Nazi germany. The Germans were the OG cacodemons, committed far more heinous acts, yet still didn't get nuked. They should have been nuked irregardless if they surrendured, just due to the sheer carnage they inflicted on the hapless countries in Eastern Europe, Poland, Russia, Libya, and the countless other places they visited.

The craziest thing that if Hitler wasn't so Anti-jew, Einstein could have very easily lived in Germany and created the bomb for the Nazi's's as opposed to the Americans. Thank God for that! :whew:
 
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