In all seriousness, at what point do we start saying Alchemist is the greatest producer ever?

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hell no. not a knock on alc at all. he's first ballot hall of fame. there's an argument for GOAT underground producer, maybe. but overall? everyone i would put above him can match his quality AND they had mainstream/crossover success, introducing non-pop artists to pop consumers.

alc's biggest strengths are consistency and how long he's been able to maintain that consistency. i dont think that qualifies him for GOAT status. rza is a perfect example as to why. i dont think rza has a legit argument for GOAT because his run flamed out (others i would rate above him successfully adapted as times and the sound of hip hop changed). but what has alchemist done that would put him above the the run rza had from 93-98?

dre was on the hot 100 charts in four different decades. making gangsta shyt. alchemist can't fukk with that.
 

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Top 5 overall maybe

Ye
Rza
Preme
Dre
ALC

Eh maybe itโ€™s always so hard to rank greatness but the fact he still working with the top talent of the game say something

Kenny just use him for his diss and he was on for all the dogs
 

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Heโ€™s too 1 dimensional. But heโ€™s mastered his signature sound

He might not even be top 10 if you ask me.
 

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:francis: Hardly likely:

  • Dude been making the same type of beat since 2000, but with a software update
  • After a while those "gutter" beats get kinda played out after the first few times of bumping
  • When I think of greatest, I think diverse sound...which Alc doesn't have
Don't get me wrong, Alc one of the best to do it and possibly the best producer out NOW given how fukked the industry is, but pound for pound of all time...naw.

Pharrel, Just, BBTP, and Kyrsis pop up in my head concerning of all time.
 

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Alchemist is the greatest off the โ€œWe Gonna Make Itโ€ beat aloneโ€ฆ.


He gave Curren$y and Phantom P a lot of dope beats in his heyday.
 
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