In all seriousness, at what point do we start saying Alchemist is the greatest producer ever?

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He's consistent but when I think of him as a producer I'm not instantly reminded of any standout tracks the way I am when I think of RZA, Primo, Dre, Pete Rock, and some other producers. I think if you were to make say a best of 20 beat instrumental cd with him against some of the producers I named it would become very clear just how far away he is from GOAT status.
 

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When he starts becoming influential, when he starts making tracks that will be remembered or talked about decades from now, when he finds a unique style and on and on. I'm young but I can't put him in my top 10 above a bunch of 90s dudes and others who actually had all those things I mentioned.

It's like A few random boxers could probably knock out Ali, but their performance is not as impressive as his was given the time. But yeah he's dope top 11-20 somewhere.
 

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Actually IMO, Alchemist's mentor, DJ Muggs > Alchemist as far as memorable beats, impact and just overall enjoyability. Not hating, Alchemist is dope, just saying.
 

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one of the greatest probably.. but I never really can say that he produced an whole classic album ... can someone name dem???
 

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:blessed:

i remember when everybody had this as a song on their piczo(i think it was called) page...before myspace was poppin
 

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Actually IMO, Alchemist's mentor, DJ Muggs > Alchemist as far as memorable beats, impact and just overall enjoyability. Not hating, Alchemist is dope, just saying.
What are some really good beats DJ Muggs has made. This just sounds like a situation where somebody uses hyperbole to mention somebody that is never mentioned. Outside of Cypress Hill what has Muggs done?
 

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What are some really good beats DJ Muggs has made. This just sounds like a situation where somebody uses hyperbole to mention somebody that is never mentioned. Outside of Cypress Hill what has Muggs done?
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Never really got into Cypress Hill, so I'm not sure whom I'd put higher.
 

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one of the greatest probably.. but I never really can say that he produced an whole classic album ... can someone name dem???
thats a gripe i think too...but Return of the Mac is very acclaimed and so are many Dilated Peoples albums. Special Edition wasnt a classic but a very dope album
 
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