In an absolute stunner Josh Allen has been named MVP over Lamar Jackson despite not making All-pro first team (First time since 1987)

[Bryan Danielson]

Laat year Josh had damn near 50 touchdowns.

But yall want to take the media narrative of "too many turnovers" foh.
Yall keep the narrative if it fits what you want..

You a hater if you saying Josh and Dak and deserve it last year.. dead ass hater

Im absolutely a hater…. But go Back and read my Post brother


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[Bryan Danielson]

Lamar was robbed horribly , JA Should not have been MVP

i hope the Ravens feel the frustration that we felt from a robbery… we were robbed twice by the Ravens and Chiefs so I feel nothing

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Bills won multiple games when Josh was bad so your argument is DOA.

They gave it Josh because he's a golden boy and they finally wanted him to get something. Lamar clearly had the better season. The stats have already been posted and they're not close. Bills getting 1 more in a trash division shouldn't be enough to sway the vote in his favor especially when they weren't the 1 seed

Lamar had 825 more yards of offense and 4 more touchdowns with maybe 2 more turnovers while the ravens came within a fraction of most yards gained per play as a team in nfl history, only behind the 2000 St. Louis Rams.


Edit: I forgot to note that not a single interception Lamar threw this year was on him either. 4 of them hit the receiver in the hands first and another came from the receiver running the wrong route, stopping in the middle of the field instead of continuing a crossing route.

 

[HNIC973]

alot of those stats came early when they were losing

they became a better team when they became conservative and took the ball out of Josh hands because he was turning it over too much

did you forget he lead the league in turnovers?

I didn't forget anything & a lot of those turnovers were with Dorsey as OC . He cut the turnovers at historic rate had the same amount TDs in damn near 3 games less played

Bills won multiple games when Josh was bad so your argument is DOA.

They gave it Josh because he's a golden boy and they finally wanted him to get something. Lamar clearly had the better season. The stats have already been posted and they're not close. Bills getting 1 more in a trash division shouldn't be enough to sway the vote in his favor especially when they weren't the 1 seed

What games did they win when he has "bad"? .It's obvious you dudes watch like 3 Bills games a year . The Ravens had a losing record when Lamar attempted over 30 passes & Henry didn't get 85 yards. I'm fine with Co- MVP but again stop acting like Josh wasn't deserving

 

[Supa]

Lamar had 825 more yards of offense and 4 more touchdowns with maybe 2 more turnovers while the ravens came within a fraction of most yards gained per play as a team in nfl history, only behind the 2000 St. Louis Rams.

No one is going to remember this season from Josh Allen because he did nothing extraordinary.

Even though last season didn't have any QB putting up amazing stats the Ravens going 9-1 vs winning teams and annihilating the teams they faced who had MVP candidates locked it up for Lamar. Ravens were the best team in the league and #1 seed.

You either win big and get the #1 seed, have amazing stats, or both.


Josh had neither and still won MVP

 

[HNIC973]

Acting this guy didn't deserve it is peak Coli foolishness

 

[calh45]

9-8 with what talent ? You do realize the bills have one of the worst 2nd and 3rd downs defenses in the league right? They're slowly winning on the backs of a qb. Offense would absolutely suck with trisbinsky too they some of the worst separation down field from any wr core in the league. Team is devoid of talent and Allen definitely deserves mvp for leading them to 3 losses

Teams can win based on coaching too. The AFC East had the worst collection of coaching in the NFL too. Ask Pats fans about Mayo. The Jets had multiple terrible HCs this year. The Dolphins coach got figured out and they're not a threat.

AGAIN. He deserved it, but you're still wrong as shyt about how "bad" the team would be, and I ain't even gotta get into their actual roster which is talented. An example of a team WITHOUT talent would be the Patriots. Cook, Shakir, and Kincaid are proper above NFL talent as pass targets. WR separation is a ridiculous analytics nerd stat that has nothing to do with talent or performance. Go check the top 25 in WR separation and Chase or Jettas ain't there for a reason. It's some made up shyt just for people to say a number.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Acting this guy didn't deserve it is peak Coli foolishness

Yeah when guy has a top 10 season ever yeah Allen doesn’t deserve it

 

[HNIC973]

No one is going to remember this season from Josh Allen because he did nothing extraordinary.

Even though last season didn't have any QB putting up amazing stats the Ravens going 9-1 vs winning teams and annihilating the teams they faced who had MVP candidates locked it up for Lamar. Ravens were the best team in the league and #1 seed.

You either win big and get the #1 seed, have amazing stats, or both.


Josh had neither and still won MVP

He did nothing extraordinary 1st player in NFL history with 5 straight 40+ TD seasons but whatever keep

 

[HNIC973]

Yeah when guy has a top 10 season ever yeah Allen doesn’t deserve it

Lamar didn't deserve it last year so

 

[calh45]

Are you and others in there going to sit here and act as if Josh and that Bills team literally didn't beat the top seed in both conferences this season?

The Chiefs would literally be playing for a undefeated season right now along with the three peat if it wasn't for Allen's heroics.

Before you and others come and bring up the Lions injuries, they were still beating teams even with those guys out, so don't do it to discredit it.

Where did I act like he didn't beat them? The post I was responding to said that team would only have 3 wins without Josh. That's crazy talk in that division. You doing what he did. Just bringing superfluous shyt. HE DESERVED THE MVP, but that team wasn't devoid of talent in any sense of the word. He just didn't have names casual fans couldn't immediately recognize, but that don't mean they were shyt.

It's 3 of the worst run franchises in the NFL in that division. Brandon Beane team construction skills and McDermott being a stable sane coach alone is enough to get 8 wins in that division.

 

[HNIC973]

The Bills leading WR for TDs was Mack fukking Hollins

 

[Surreal]

Wins are NOT a QB stat

MVP is a STAT award

 

[Street Knowledge]

Lamar didn't deserve it last year so

Why?

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

No one is going to remember this season from Josh Allen because he did nothing extraordinary.

Even though last season didn't have any QB putting up amazing stats the Ravens going 9-1 vs winning teams and annihilating the teams they faced who had MVP candidates locked it up for Lamar. Ravens were the best team in the league and #1 seed.

You either win big and get the #1 seed, have amazing stats, or both.


Josh had neither and still won MVP

As soon as the clock hit 0:00 in the Steelers loss (which was obviously not on Lamar for anyone who didn’t see the game) the media went into overdrive campaigning for Allen to win it despite no lane to argue it based on the bills record or his statistical output.


Like a said earlier, Allen had a great year but in a year or two it’s gonna be remembered like 2002 where Miguel Tejada won it while A-Rod had an ops roughly 150 points higher and hit 23 more homers to go with an 8.8 WAR to 5.7 for Tejada.