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Hawkeye literally has an entire speech where he talks about how crazy he feels as a dude with a bow fighting with all these superpowered beings in Avengers 2. Did you just happen to miss that? They def do that with Hawkeye

ok that's true but he is not a sideman. Hawkeye plays off his weakness vs "nebulous avengers" ... falcon played off his weakness against a person.

that's the difference between you saying "i am only human" and "i am much worse than that guy over there". one is a general statement, the other is adopting an inferior position vs. an individual.

sam's problem is that he is the eternal-sideman of the very man he is trying to replace :ufdup:

how are you going to hold up in a position when you have repeatedly said that the previous holder of that position is levels better than you?

that by definition makes you a worse cap - unless something changes.

mackie is a terrible actor so his personality is not going to bridge that gap.

thus the calls for a power up.
 

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Would have been perfect. But, Ed Norton likes to get real hands on with his character and the script. Disney would not have dealt with that at all.

the first two Hulk movies were good, the portrayal of David Banner and a good story is what put them above the more recent ones.
i mean, with what came of it anyways, they should have let him rock.

I personally don’t care for the 2003 hulk movie.
 
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ok that's true but he is not a sideman. Hawkeye plays off his weakness vs "nebulous avengers" ... falcon played off his weakness against a person.

that's the difference between you saying "i am only human" and "i am much worse than that guy over there". one is a general statement, the other is adopting an inferior position vs. an individual.

sam's problem that he is the eternal-sideman of the very man he is trying to replace :ufdup:

how are you going to hold up in a position when you have repeatedly said that the previous holder of that position is levels better than you?

that by definition makes you a worse cap - unless something changes.

mackie is a terrible actor so his personality is not going to bridge that gap.

thus the calls for a power up.

But cap is one of the GOAT superheroes. How many marvel comics have you read? There are cosmic beings who respect cap and talk highly about him. It tracks with the comics that Sam would feel that way.
 

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The problem isn’t Sam. It’s the character he’s replacing. Steve Rogers was one of the foundations of the MCU. Taking him away and Tony Stark with no replacement has been the biggest issue with the franchise.
X-Men is the only thing that's gonna save MCU, and I'm not even banking on that watching their track record with every single film since Endgame. I don't Fantastic 4 resonate with people like X-Men. The villains are going to have to carry the show there.

Bad or lukewarm writing can be beat with Star power, it's literally the reason why No Way Home was as revered as it was. I'm beating a dead horse, but it's why T'Challa should've been recast. Chadwick was the clear frontrunner to lead the MCU. T'Challa, a better written Strange, a better written Hulk, Thor, and a better written Captain Marvel could've carried the Multiverse saga, phases 4, 5, and 6.
 

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But cap is one of the GOAT superheroes. How many marvel comics have you read? They’re cosmic beings who respect cap and talk highly about him. It tracks with the comics that Sam would feel that way.

cap in the movies is not cap in the comics.

so that makes falcon's MCU sideman-ship even more damning :picard:
 

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So why didn't you think Marvel was finished back then since this exemplifies how all over the place the powerscaling always been? Why is Infinity War so goated despite powerscaling issues, Marvel brand of humor throughout the movie, plotholes and a villain that doesn't make any sense?

Because the poster I responded to said his suspension of high blood pressure was at an all time low because of shyt like that. My point is it's always been messy. Seems like we agree
 

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yep, this is why i hate when they make black characters unoriginal clones of white characters. Now he can't even be falcon anymore, people arguing why he isn't more like steve.

He's taken the mantle a couple of times in the comics so it's not some stretch for him to be Cap.

A lot of this is honestly going to depend on the script/plot. Hopefully the writers did a good job with his character in the movie.



























































edit: Who am I kidding, the writing has been buns too for a minute :dead:
 

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He's taken the mantle a couple of times in the comics so it's not some stretch for him to be Cap.

A lot of this is honestly going to depend on the script/plot. Hopefully the writers did a good job with his character in the movie.



























































edit: Who am I kidding, the writing has been buns too for a minute :dead:
i don't like when they do it in the comics either. Falcon was more of a original black character before becoming a steve rogers clone.
 

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he's getting a love interest in the movie :russ:
I hope they bring back Simone Missick so we can get falcon and misty knight, since they're not doing T'Challa and storm.
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X-Men is the only thing that's gonna save MCU, and I'm not even banking on that watching their track record with every single film since Endgame. I don't Fantastic 4 resonate with people like X-Men. The villains are going to have to carry the show there.

Bad or lukewarm writing can be beat with Star power, it's literally the reason why No Way Home was as revered as it was. I'm beating a dead horse, but it's why T'Challa should've been recast. Chadwick was the clear frontrunner to lead the MCU. T'Challa, a better written Strange, a better written Hulk, Thor, and a better written Captain Marvel could've carried the Multiverse saga, phases 4, 5, and 6.
Wrong.

Previous T’Challa didn’t include a Storm storyline. At least with young T’Challa it’s possible.
 
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