Ol’Otis
The Picasso of the Ghetto
Big's mom even said they weren't friends
In light of all the 2Pac and Biggie Murder threads and discussions of late--> Long Kiss Goodnight
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BIG's not around to ask questions when those royalty checks come in. So I don't see how this is a negative for Puff on the business side of things. Then you have someone like Jay who catapulted to superstardom specifically because of the void left by BIG.
When it comes down to it, BIG's death was the best thing to happen to either of their careers.
See someone like Nas also benefited but unlike Jay, Nas already had his own lane even when BIG was alive so he was going to be set either way.
KravenMorehead™
Barrel Brothers.®
And tbh, Pac was trying to end the mans career and livelihood and stated clearly he wouldn't be done until Biggie, Diddy and Bad Boy were out of the game...and he was throwing mad lowblows with Faith and Misa...so to me it was fair game...that beef had gone waaay past rap and having boundaries whilst Pac was alive
Once you start trying to fucc niccas wives and babymoms there is no fair sh1t to the beef anymore...anything goes from then on imo
for some reason just reading this line had me
this is the dude who was supposed to replace snoop dogg right.....like the realest who replaced pac....lolll
in anything in hip hop history more lame than the realest?
Thugnificent
Rookie
BIG's not around to ask questions when those royalty checks come in. So I don't see how this is a negative for Puff on the business side of things. Then you have someone like Jay who catapulted to superstardom specifically because of the void left by BIG.
When it comes down to it, BIG's death was the best thing to happen to either of their careers.
See someone like Nas also benefited but unlike Jay, Nas already had his own lane even when BIG was alive so he was going to be set either way.
A lot of rappers benefited from both biggie and pacs death
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TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Great song. One of the best subliminal disses ever. RZA killed the beat too.
MoneyBags
Dapper Don Don Boss of Bosses Chief of Chiefs
you idiots, BIG was gonna get killed regardless if he spit that freestyle or not. Suge had the hit on him already.
then diss him when he's alive....
while i personally wouldn't diss the dead, i can see why big did it.
this shyt is just greasy af
big did diss pac when he was alive.
oh well, they were both mad young and sometimes said/did stupid shyt.
he did? beacuse the two pacs line was awful and self ether....and who shot ya he didnt claim so...
doesn't matter to me. big didnt need to make beefing his primary source of attention.
he let his skills on the mic do that for him.
ok I get that argument but thats irrelevent to this convo beacuse obviously he did want to beef and throw jabs......just dirty ones after a dude is dead
big didnt need to make beefing his primary source of attention.
he let his skills on the mic do that for him.
im a BIG stan dude..its just a bad look, its weak
LOL you gonna cry about it?
what you want me to tell you? do you want the song to be banned from ever being played again? what will make you happy?
dj-method-x
Superstar
This is what I think happened. I think he recorded a crazy direct diss to Pac before he died that was probably dope as fukk. When Pac died they probably thought about throwing the song away but it was so dope they decided to keep it on the album. But they changed it around to be more about anybody or any enemy and not specific to Pac and updated the song with other stuff, like the Cease crippled me line.
The problem is that they didn't change it enough and even though it was subliminal and not direct like the original diss, it still clearly seemed like it was directed to Pac.
I could be just giving Big and Pac too much credit but I don't think they'd be stupid enough to dance on Pacs grave, legally and morally. But I guess we'll never know...
The problem is that they didn't change it enough and even though it was subliminal and not direct like the original diss, it still clearly seemed like it was directed to Pac.
I could be just giving Big and Pac too much credit but I don't think they'd be stupid enough to dance on Pacs grave, legally and morally. But I guess we'll never know...