Tical 2000 > Tical
In retrospect, was the second round of Wu-Tang solos underrated?
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erker
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En Sabah Nur
The First
Tical 2000 IS better overall than Tical, it just lacked the hit singles
Nobody mentioned The Pillage yet...which is dope and disappointing at the same time
Probably the best produced of all the 2nd wave next to Supreme Clientele. Had everything the others were missing... majority RZA, Truemaster & 4th Disciple production, Clan cameos, Blue Raspberry AND Tekitha, and kung fu skits. A perfect TD pass
But Cappadonna was just so awful and sleepwalking through this joint that it was something that came and went. Talk about a blown opportunity, because Cappa was at the same starting line as DMX, Pun, Canibus, Nore and Cam'ron when it came to careers starting from hyped debut albums that year. But he ended up getting left in the dust by all of them except Canibus
Nobody mentioned The Pillage yet...which is dope and disappointing at the same time
Probably the best produced of all the 2nd wave next to Supreme Clientele. Had everything the others were missing... majority RZA, Truemaster & 4th Disciple production, Clan cameos, Blue Raspberry AND Tekitha, and kung fu skits. A perfect TD pass
But Cappadonna was just so awful and sleepwalking through this joint that it was something that came and went. Talk about a blown opportunity, because Cappa was at the same starting line as DMX, Pun, Canibus, Nore and Cam'ron when it came to careers starting from hyped debut albums that year. But he ended up getting left in the dust by all of them except Canibus
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There was one bad - U-god and one classic - Ghost..the rest fall somewhere in the middle
Dirty might have had the biggest single hit of these batch of solos or at least on the level of Cherchez La Ghost
Dirty might have had the biggest single hit of these batch of solos or at least on the level of Cherchez La Ghost
& Bobby Digital In Stereo were instant PIFF
Another aspect of the second round of albums that just wasn't as good was the art direction/artwork style, In Stereo and nikka Please aside.
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover but looking at the album covers you just knew they weren't going to live up to expectations. Supreme Clientele was a very pleasant surprise.
You shouldn't judge a book by its cover but looking at the album covers you just knew they weren't going to live up to expectations. Supreme Clientele was a very pleasant surprise.
UserNameless
Veteran
Makes me appreciate Ghost that much more . Negro was like Bron carrying the squad to the chip game 
But BTS is a personal fave and I appreciate US .
@Red often cover creativity (or lack thereof) let’s you know exactly what you’re getting into
Deck jumping toward the photoshopped police car with the barking dog on the hood STILL cracks me up
But BTS is a personal fave and I appreciate US .
@Red often cover creativity (or lack thereof) let’s you know exactly what you’re getting into
Deck jumping toward the photoshopped police car with the barking dog on the hood STILL cracks me up
The car was real. They just had bad photoshop effects for the name & title on top of it.
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Part of the whole corny photoshoot where cops were going to bust him for selling Wu CDs to kids but he 'flipped the script' and arrested the cops.
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ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
Definitely underrated. They were getting more adventurous with the soundscapes and the lyrics were getting more intricate (and weirder thanks to the addition of Cappadonna) but those records are mostly great.
I think Tical 2000 is as good as Tical, the RZA debut is also classic. Obviously SC. The rest are good to great except Immobilarity which has some really terrible production choices
Imagine wanting this beat on your album:
I think Tical 2000 is as good as Tical, the RZA debut is also classic. Obviously SC. The rest are good to great except Immobilarity which has some really terrible production choices
Imagine wanting this beat on your album:
MrWillyWanker
Pro
nothing hurts me more than not getting that Deck album during that amazing first run of solos leading up to Wu-Tang Forever. I know they were supposedly lost in the flood but damn
I loved that shyt as is. I’ve always like Tical but T2000 is my favorite of the two.
Rae floated on that beat though , give him props.
That fake swizz beat on that lp is trash though.
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
Yeah the rapping was good. Rae went for a bunch of budget Havoc type beats for the most part, it was easily the worst album sonically that the Wu had released at that point.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Facts. And like @BuddahMAC said they weren't even using 4th or True Master.
I low-key liked some of the "side" projects more than the what the core was putting out.
Tical 2000 IS better overall than Tical, it just lacked the hit singles
Nobody mentioned The Pillage yet...which is dope and disappointing at the same time
Probably the best produced of all the 2nd wave next to Supreme Clientele. Had everything the others were missing... majority RZA, Truemaster & 4th Disciple production, Clan cameos, Blue Raspberry AND Tekitha, and kung fu skits. A perfect TD pass
But Cappadonna was just so awful and sleepwalking through this joint that it was something that came and went. Talk about a blown opportunity, because Cappa was at the same starting line as DMX, Pun, Canibus, Nore and Cam'ron when it came to careers starting from hyped debut albums that year. But he ended up getting left in the dust by all of them except Canibus
The Pillage was dope. I didn't expect much and it ended up being one of the albums of that run that I play the most. Indeed for the overall cohesivness of the album and the certified Wu sounds. Cappa himself is forgettable but I didn't mind. Never knew he had that kind of hype (I'm not in the US).
I gotta say I wasn't disappointed by Rza albums at all, because already with Gravediggaz you knew he liked experiencing with different stuff. That being said, the fact that a whole lot of his beats were used on affiliates albums and compilations instead of by core members kind of pisses me off, but then again maybe those guys just didn't want to use these somewhat different Rza beats.
FromBillionsCameOne
All Star
i loved all that stuff. Supreme, Immobilarity, Silent Weapons, Uncontolled Substance, Heavy Mental and even Sonz of Man. THE SWARM is a personal classic. I know most of them were affiliates but damn a lot of them songs were dope as hell. My avatar isd from this video this song is classic as hell VA stand up! 1:45