In The Age Of AI, Is College/University Still Worth It?

[dora_da_destroyer]

Stanford looks cool in that picture, but it's not a damn resort and it's in the middle of lifeless azz Silicon Valley area. nothing to do there but get stuck in traffic. in my opinion a terrible location compared to the others.

What!? Stanford has an amazing campus, and we back against the foothills so there’s lots of nature around. 90-95% of students live on campus and you’re guaranteed housing for 4 years so there’s nothing to do with traffic. Now of course it’s not comparable to being coastside, but as for actual campus, you’ll be hard pressed for Stanford to not be amongst the nicest.

 

[Yinny]

Life-altering debt aside, I still think yes. Education is valuable.

With that said it's harder to tie it easily/neatly to 'why' given the debt and employers' ever-changing standards for what you need to do and have, especially for Black people - I have a friend who earned two Masters from Harvard (Ed & Kennedy) ~2 years ago, high distinction and hasn't been able to get a job since the Obama administration.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Even rich white people who don’t need degrees go to college. I’ll believe all of these “you don’t need college “ narratives when the elites stop bribing colleges to get their kids in. They only sell the ‘you don’t need college’ narrative to the poor and non-whites.

You can’t really compare the value of going to elite schools with the average school. Elite schools are about networking and brand, not the degree. Lots of people coming out of Stanford, Harvard, Yale, etc with liberal arts degrees getting the most desired jobs in finance, consulting, tech, media, entertainment. But the ROI for middle of the road schools ain’t really gonna be there, it’s already struggling given the cost to attend those schools vs the pay in career fields after. I went to the elite schools and looking at cost and shrinking opportunities for young workers, I’m very pessimistic about what the value of college is and employment prospects for my son will be. I just don’t see things getting better for the average college grad

 

[feelosofer]

College is absolutely essential, more so than ever. I think the smart play will be to go to community college then transfer. Most schools will tell you what transfers or does not transfer.

The more important thing is to commit to in demand fields, STEM, Law, Medicine etc.

 

[horizon]

Black people are not in a position to say we don’t need any artists, economists, historians, philosophers, sociologists, psychologists. We need numbers everywhere in every field, yall have spent entirely too much time on the internet surrounded by either STEMlords or motherfukkers trying to convince you not to pursue higher education. And STEM is a worthy pursuit but to say anything else is pointless is utterly ridiculous.

 

[JT-Money]

Some people need to be denied student loans. Getting an Associate, Bachelors and 2 Masters is just dumb.

 

[Paper Boi]

What!? Stanford has an amazing campus, and we back against the foothills so there’s lots of nature around. 90-95% of students live on campus and you’re guaranteed housing for 4 years so there’s nothing to do with traffic. Now of course it’s not comparable to being coastside, but as for actual campus, you’ll be hard pressed for Stanford to not be amongst the nicest.

ok but compared to the other campuses on the beach, it's not the same.

i am from northern california too. i love it here too. but i'm literally going off the prompt in the tweet.

living in fukking Palo Alto is not like living in Miami respecftully.

 

[Chrishaune]

why would they need to enslave people when they can have subservient robots?

It's all about control for the elite. Robots just keep you from being around the things they think are valuable.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

ok but compared to the other campuses on the beach, it's not the same.

i am from northern california too. i love it here too. but i'm literally going off the prompt in the tweet.

living in fukking Palo Alto is not like living in Miami respecftully.

Miami is trash outside of south beach, so unless the U is on the beach, campus for campus, Stanford is by far one of the best.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Rich people keep sending their kids to college while telling you not to go to college. Brehs don't see what's going on???

If you are able to go to college, go to fukking college and major in something that will get you paid.

 

[Paper Boi]

Miami is trash outside of south beach, so unless the U is on the beach, campus for campus, Stanford is by far one of the best.

homerism bias

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

homerism bias

It’s not - I fukking hate the bay/Cali , just here to be close to family . But Stanford being beautiful is absolutely the reaction people have to its campus. Have you been to Stanford’s campus? Have you been to real Miami - outside of south beach? That place is a hell hole

 

[bnew]

Founder of Google's Generative AI Team Says Don't Even Bother Getting a Law or Medical Degree, Because AI's Going to Destroy Both Those Careers Before You Can Even Graduate

The man behind Google's first generative AI program has some stark advice for advanced degree-seekers: don't do it, because AI will beat you.

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Founder of Google's Generative AI Team Says Don't Even Bother Getting a Law or Medical Degree, Because AI's Going to Destroy Both Those Careers Before You Can Even Graduate​

"Either get into something niche like AI for biology... or just don't get into anything at all."​

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One of the pioneers of artificial intelligence at Google is warning the potential doctors and lawyers of tomorrow that AI might steal their futures.

In an interview with Business Insider, Jad Tarifi — the 42-year-old founder of Google's first generative AI team who left in 2021 to found his own startup, Integral AI — suggested that ever-improving AI capabilities may soon make getting advanced degrees in law or medicine an exercise in futility.

With so many people seeking further education as they get edged out of the job market by AI, Tarifi offered a different perspective: that nobody "should ever do a PhD unless they are obsessed with the field."

The AI veteran also told BI that he'd advise caution to anyone looking to get into the fields of medicine and law, which take years — and often hundreds of thousands of dollars — to complete a degree.

"In the current medical system, what you learn in medical school is so outdated and based on memorization," Tarifi told the website. Seeking advanced medical or law degrees is, to his thinking, tantamount to "throwing away" several years of one's life.

"I have a PhD in AI," he added, "but I don't know how the latest microprocessor works."

While some would suggest that seeking postgraduate degrees in AI might help secure their futures as the technology takes over, the former Googler suggested that folks might want to pump the brakes on that, too.

"Even things like applying AI to robotics will be solved" by the time you complete a PhD, Tarifi continued. "So either get into something niche like AI for biology, which is still in its very early stages, or just don't get into anything at all."

Like OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, who wrongfully insists that AI has already reached "PhD-level" intelligence, Tarifi clearly has very high regard for where the technology is today and where it will soon be headed. As he explained to BI, he finds these alleged advances to be all the more reason to double down on a Silicon Valley version of what it means to be human.

"The best thing to work on is more internal," Tarifi told BI. "Meditate. Socialize with your friends. Get to know yourself emotionally."

He might want to add "check in with reality" to that milquetoast list of recommendations, too, given that current AI technology has repeatedly demonstrated itself to be very bad at lawyering and even worse at doctoring.

Then again, anyone setting off to get a medical degree today is staring down the barrel of nearly a decade of education before they're a full doctor, so it's possible Tarifi is right, if AI continues improving at the rate it has been.

On the other hand, of course, until then we're all going to have to live in a world with a looming physician shortage — so if Tarifi is wrong, and AI does stall out, patients around the world are going to be in deep trouble.

More on AI prognostications: MIT Student Drops Out Because She Says AGI Will Kill Everyone Before She Can Graduate

 

[Him Duncan]

Simple steps to become AI proof:

>track 1: Become and engineer in a field where baby boomers will be retiring from in BIG numbers
1) Go to college and major in one of these majors: Electrical Engineering, Civil Engineering, or Computer engineering (computer engineering is only here for the FPGA design and embedded systems... other than that avoid it since Indians are all over its related fields)
2) Focus on power systems, embedded systems, or FPGA design. Lots of jobs in these areas as baby boomers retired. Especially for defense contractors or utility companies.
3) Can easily get a job at utility company or defense contractor (assuming youre a citizen of course)

>track 2: Join the navy as a nuclear officer.
A lot of money is about to flow into the Navy bc the pentagon has been posting "Chinese navy" fear porn lately.
1) Go to college and major in mechanical engineering, Electrical engineering, or physics.
2) Ask your school coounselor about the "NUPOC" program. it's really eaasy to get accepted into this program if you know the basics of differential equations, classical physics, and some very basic thermo/fluid dynamics stuff (shyt you learned in highscool). They'll gve you a phone interview testing you on this stuff.
3) Spend most of your days teaching enlisted NUKE personnel at power school or prototype
4) Earn big money
5) Once you get out of the navy, you can make EVEN MORE money working at Data Centers as a critical facifilies engineer.

>track 3: become a merchant marine
1) Straight out of highschool apply to some kind of maritime academy (some colleges arent maritime academies but have the same program that is used to help you become a merchant marine).
2) Become a merchant marine... profit.

>track 4: Join the navy as an enlisted personnel ==> become a nuke
1) Take the asvab and score high. make sure to review the electronics section. math section, mechanical aptitude section, reading and writing section as well as some physics as it will flag you for consideration for NUKE
2) If you're a citizen and you did well at 1) youll get the NUKE rate
3) become a nuke
4) Get out and become a nuclear instrumentation and controls engineer. MAKE BIG MONEY doing this.

>A major theme here is cleaerance. By doing a lot of these you earn some kind of clearace whether secret or top secret. Enjoy automatically getting hired after browsing clearancejobs

I WILL DELETE THIS POST SOON. BUT THIS IS THE CHEAT CODE IF YOU DONT WANT TO WORRY ABOUT THIS AI shyt. Do you concur @IIVI ?

Why delete it? This is exactly one of the paths I took though. And no degree, I can tell you there's tens of thousands of people making good money using the methods here and it's good advice. With or without the degree

 

[acri1]

Sitting at a computer for 8 hours is not only less honorable; but is guaranteed to expedite the obesity epidemic and all sorts of ergonomic ailments.

Having soft hands is the least of your worries feminnem breh.

I've worked in IT almost 20 years and have never been overweight. And have none of the back or knee problems some of my friends working labor or trades have.

Not saying anything is wrong with that