in the real world, 2pac = #1, biggie =#2, and jay z =#3

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MaxBundles said:
This what I'm talking about. Big and Pac died like 20 years ago. 20 years. That's longer than some of you nikkas time on this earth. Yall trying tell me in all that time, a rapper ain't drop something substantial that's worth discussing more. If you telling me yes, than something wrong with you not the new generation of music.
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Nikka I asked you who you think within the new generation should be discussed more and you still didn't answer the question so what that tell you?
 
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saysumthinfunnymike said:
Are you talking the new generation or not? We discuss 2001 just as much as '95 or look at the numbers the Kendrick threads do. Simply put, 2016 ain't been a strong year, so this is what happens.
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Right. I don't listen to Designer, Young Thug, Yachty, Future, Chance the Rapper, or none of these weirdo type muthafuggas that get gassed here, I listen to what I came up with and discuss whom music related mostly to me. But I'm no hater. Theres a lot of new nikkas putting it down that I listen too but the majority of the shyt that gets gassed is weak so I let them cook with it.
 
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DaHNIC82 said:
Right. I don't listen to Designer, Young Thug, Yachty, Future, Chance the Rapper, or none of these weirdo type muthafuggas that get gassed here, I listen to what I came up with and discuss whom music related mostly to me. But I'm no hater. Theres a lot of new nikkas putting it down that I listen too but the majority of the shyt that gets gassed is weak so I let them cook with it.
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man that whole list of "rappers" made me spill my drink LOL thank you lol
 
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bigbadbossup2012 said:
No he doesnt and pac clearly has a superior catalog,variety of subject matter etc. It's not even close. nikkas love to act like suckas. nikkas love to discredit pac and blame his acclaim for his persona while ignoring how much beef with pac brought biggie up on a level he's not even on. I love biggie,i believe he ran 95' and in death (him and his crew) ran 1997. But without beef with pac,he's just another swag rapper historically,keeping 100.
This is why people like hov have surpassed him in the general public's eyes and people feel comfortable dissing him. Personally I'd bump RTD and LAD over any hov albums. I love biggie's flows,voice and over all song making ability over alot of nikkas. But on the real,despite the greatness of rtd biggie's whole appeal was radio party records. He was basically the darkskin curse word saying version of heavy d (love heavy,no disrespect) to the masses. Pac didnt have to legitimize him. It benefits biggie when people say pac&biggie biggie&pac. Without that attachment he's damn near forgotten. he doesnt have young mf's whom were just being birthed around his death date,coming up loving him the way they love pac,cause he doesnt have that catalog of great heartfelt music like pac has. Icould go on but i'm tired. I'll close with this. Before beef with pac,people outside of east coast looked at biggie as a dude who made great sounding music but no one gave a shyt about what he was actually saying. So if you want to talk intangibles i can do that too and a lot more accurately.
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Stop with passing your bias off as some fact bro. If it wasn't for the beef Pac wouldn't have been elevated to where he is now. Big already had a street buzz going well before he dropped & RTD put him over that hump. Not that beef with Pac. Pac attaching himself to Biggie's wave back then helped him. Big was gonna blow regardless off of his talent & with Puff's formula. If you believe otherwise then you're in denial fam
 
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Knicksman20 said:
He might be more listened to but there's no way in hell he was more skilled than Big.
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Tupac Shakur has more emotional, relatable, and heartfelt music. And that's the bottom line to it..that isn't never gonna change. Ever. I listen to Biggie EVERY fukkING week...lol. But Pac is another level....his endpoints and knowledge was ahead of Christopher Wallace. It always was.
 
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R=G said:
Tupac Shakur has more emotional, relatable, and heartfelt music. And that's the bottom line to it..that isn't never gonna change. Ever. I listen to Biggie EVERY fukkING week...lol. But Pac is another level....his endpoints and knowledge was ahead of Christopher Wallace. It always was.
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All of you guys fall on the "more emotional" point when we're talking about the art of rapping & emceeing to make up for Pac's deficiencies & weaknesses as an emcee :laff: Big would tell movies in his rhymes with so much detail second to none. His wordplay, delivery, & flows were damn near perfect. Pac is on another level, a level underneath the greatest rapper/emcee of all time known as Christopher Latore Wallace. Big had no weakness & was the most well rounded emcee to grace the mic bruh. I can't say the say for Pac :yeshrug:
 
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R=G said:
Tupac Shakur has more emotional, relatable, and heartfelt music. And that's the bottom line to it..that isn't never gonna change. Ever. I listen to Biggie EVERY fukkING week...lol. But Pac is another level....his endpoints and knowledge was ahead of Christopher Wallace. It always was.
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I don't agree with everything he says but I 100% agree with him on the definition of the difference of what a rapper/emcee is. And this is what I base my view of him & Pac

 
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Knicksman20 said:
Stop with passing your bias off as some fact bro. If it wasn't for the beef Pac wouldn't have been elevated to where he is now. Big already had a street buzz going well before he dropped & RTD put him over that hump. Not that beef with Pac. Pac attaching himself to Biggie's wave back then helped him. Big was gonna blow regardless off of his talent & with Puff's formula. If you believe otherwise then you're in denial fam
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Lmao pac had mf's shooting cops while bumping his first album. Pac had nikkas rocking nose rings,pac had nikkas rocking baldies with the scarfs aunt jemama style.pac made it popular for black (non gang members) to get tattoos. Pac had already done classic movies.
Pac helped create big's waive and schooled him "do not rap for the nikkas,rap for the bytches,nikkas will want what the bytches want" also used to put him on stage before he did keep ya head up and i get around. Let biggie war his jewelry,gave him shyt and never asked for it back. Used to beg bad bytches to fukk big. nikka pac is biggie's father.
lmao at big having a street buzz,yea a fulton st buzz
 
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This is not culturally what you believe is it.
Plus real talk,...
For gateway pop fans of rap.
I think it is safe to say bone is the number one go to anything for pop fans of rap.
All because all the music is a bone bite.
I don't hear any music that sounds like pac, big or jay in general bulk.
It all sounds like triple six ripoff of DJ uneek bone music on autotune.


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