In what countries do Blacks and Mulattoes in the same social class?

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Afroasiatics such as Somalis and the Amhara enslaved pure Nilotics and made them servants. They also sold these Nilotics and bantu groups to the Arabs. Throughout history they only enslaved pure Nilotics.

Deep.

 

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Do you live in Jamaica?

Is Jamaica the only the only english speaking caribbean country?

I've always heard in Jamaica Mulattoes were considered a colored class. Maybe someone can give us a little more clarity on this subject?

 

[TRFG]

I've always heard in Jamaica Mulattoes were considered a colored class. Maybe someone can give us a little more clarity on this subject?

The only class (that really matters) in Jamaica is Uptown (upper class) vs downtown. It's not really like America where one's class is grouped by colour.

Uptown family
-drives Range Rover, Prado, Lexus
-housekeeper
-gardener
-has access to US/UK education

 

[BigMan]

I've always heard in Jamaica Mulattoes were considered a colored class. Maybe someone can give us a little more clarity on this subject?

at least 95% of Jamaicans are of African descent and acknowledge it including the mixed race people (mulatto/dougla/blasians). My grandmother is half Chinese and always considered herself Jamaican/black . That said, historically mixed race people held/hold positions of power in Jamaica

 

[Birnin Zana]

Brazil?

 

[sportscribe]

Would you say they were socially "distant" from black people?

No, not at all....it would hard to be socially distant considering they have parents/grandparents who are recent immigrants from the Caribbean or Africa.

However, it depends on where they were raised. The ones who are raised in upper class villages where the population of black people is less than 1% would probably have a hard time identifying with inner city black people. I think that is pretty universal anywhere.

 

[sportscribe]

Brazil?

Nah, majority of mixed people in Brasil self-identify as pardo, which is the Portuguese equivalent of "mulatto".

I think this lends credence to the fact that race is a social construct, as a lot of those very same people could/would be considered black in the US.

 

[MikeyC]

UK.

 

[sportscribe]

Afroasiatics such as Somalis and the Amhara enslaved pure Nilotics and made them servants. They also sold these Nilotics and bantu groups to the Arabs. Throughout history they only enslaved pure Nilotics.

Along ethnic lines....as I stated.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Nah, majority of mixed people in Brasil self-identify as pardo, which is the Portuguese equivalent of "mulatto".

I think this lends credence to the fact that race is a social construct, as a lot of those very same people could/would be considered black in the US.

I'm aware that they call themselves pardo. Question was which country are mixed and blacks in the same social class (for the most part). From what I've learned, Brazil is one of them.

If I'm wrong, let me know, it's all good

 

[Raptor]

Uhhhh, the Northern Sudanese murder the Southern sudanese and vice versa. As respects the Horn of Africa, Somalia is a failed state.

Yes, but that doesn't change history. Somali tribes have gotten rich off from trading "bantu" people to the arabs. Part of The reason why the horn of the Africa is so fukked up is because they over relied on slave labour and they didn't feel the need to modernise. When Britain started banning slavery across Africa and the Middle East, states that failed to modernise had decades of economic stagnation and poverty. When it came to Northern Ethiopia/Abbyssinia the treatment of slaves wasn't as bad, as they were Christian and it was akin to European serfdom where a slave had many rights and was essentially apart of the family. They were fed and had a chance to start a family. But they still weren't paid and were made to work the fields. Where as Somalis treated their slaves horribly. This is coming from an Ethiopian

 

[Raptor]

Along ethnic lines....as I stated.

Tell that to the older gen habeshas who would call dark skin people with negroid features "Bareeya" which meant slave. Heck my own grandfather called my Kenyan girl friend barriya when he first met her. We as Ethiopians have a dark history when it comes to the treatment of non Cushytic-Semitic Africans. This generation is a huge improvement tho. It's only a problem with the older generation who lived with slavery.

 

[sportscribe]

I'm aware that they call themselves pardo. Question was which country are mixed and blacks in the same social class (for the most part). From what I've learned, Brazil is one of them.

If I'm wrong, let me know, it's all good

Brazil basically has a functioning caste system.....or at least the remnants of their history with said caste system lingers today. It was similar to apartheid where those of mixed heritage were accepted as superior to Brazilians of more visible African descent.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

UK.

what country in the UK?

 

[skokiaan]

Yes, but that doesn't change history. Somali tribes have gotten rich off from trading "bantu" people to the arabs. Part of The reason why the horn of the Africa is so fukked up is because they over relied on slave labour and they didn't feel the need to modernise. When Britain started banning slavery across Africa and the Middle East, states that failed to modernise had decades of economic stagnation and poverty. When it came to Northern Ethiopia/Abbyssinia the treatment of slaves wasn't as bad, as they were Christian and it was akin to European serfdom where a slave had many rights and was essentially apart of the family. They were fed and had a chance to start a family. But they still weren't paid and were made to work the fields. Where as Somalis treated their slaves horribly. This is coming from an Ethiopian

hence failed state