Indiana’s got a problem: Too many teachers don’t want to work there anymore

Wild self

The Black Man will prosper!
Supporter
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
84,701
Reputation
12,802
Daps
229,921
that's why i don't have time for people, especially college graduates bytching about the job market. get a useful degree. principals calling desperately to find out if a senior with an english major is close to graduating and i still have to read bullshyt about the college graduate barista. fukk off people.

STEM majors and their skills are undervalued. We need worker unions back.
 

unit321

Hong Kong Phooey
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
22,213
Reputation
1,702
Daps
23,107
Reppin
USA
Was raised by one, so a few
Okay. Well, the one who raised you had a steady full-time teaching job or was in a holding pattern working substitute teachings jobs? Same goes for the other ones.

I'll just put it out there. Of the teachers that I know, there are certain school districts who aren't growing. Current teachers are keeping their jobs until they retire. They might even want to stay on longer after they turn 65 because they don't want to work at McDonald's or Walmart. Only in certain cities and towns, are the schools growing. More schools equals more teaching jobs. So of all the other cities and towns, teaching jobs are pretty much in a frozen state. You have hundreds of students each year graduating from college and getting a teaching license in the United States. They have all the credentials to teach. They would like to teach where they live or in the state where they live but there just aren't the job openings. Some get full-time jobs. Others get part-time or substitute teaching jobs. Going to Indiana would be great if they have a shortage of teachers. But it's a bit expensive to move, especially if it is across country and for a low-paying job that goes from September to June. That's almost like moving across country to be a bartender.
 

Commander in Chiefin

Passing blunts and bills $$$
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
4,611
Reputation
781
Daps
11,869
Reppin
Green Party
Another reason weed needs to be legalized. I was just in Denver over the weekend and learned Colorado school system gets 3 million a month from state weed sales.
 

NERO

All Star
Joined
Jul 29, 2013
Messages
1,867
Reputation
550
Daps
4,567
Reppin
Commiefornia
Indiana just fukkin sucks. Mississippi, Michigan, Indiana, Idaho, Arkansas, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma and Alabama all really suck. No offense to the denizens of those states but I feel for you.
 

wheywhey

Pro
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Messages
1,412
Reputation
520
Daps
2,026
New York state has a surplus of teachers. Student enrollment has been steady. Only one in three graduates from a NY teacher prep program can find a job, even though fewer are training to become teachers.

New York City doesn't have a shortage because:
-desirable place to work
-fairly high teacher salaries
-during the recession did not lay off teachers and still hired some new teachers

Guy in the article with master's degree in biology but can't find a position although STEM teachers in demand. (Chemistry, physics, and math are in demand actually, not so much biology.)

Some think there may be a shortage in the future due to:
-teacher evaluations based on students' standardized test scores
-tougher licensing exams

Why is there no teacher shortage in New York City?
 

Tate

Kae☭ernick Loyalist
Joined
Aug 3, 2015
Messages
4,274
Reputation
795
Daps
15,042
Okay. Well, the one who raised you had a steady full-time teaching job or was in a holding pattern working substitute teachings jobs? Same goes for the other ones.

I'll just put it out there. Of the teachers that I know, there are certain school districts who aren't growing. Current teachers are keeping their jobs until they retire. They might even want to stay on longer after they turn 65 because they don't want to work at McDonald's or Walmart. Only in certain cities and towns, are the schools growing. More schools equals more teaching jobs. So of all the other cities and towns, teaching jobs are pretty much in a frozen state. You have hundreds of students each year graduating from college and getting a teaching license in the United States. They have all the credentials to teach. They would like to teach where they live or in the state where they live but there just aren't the job openings. Some get full-time jobs. Others get part-time or substitute teaching jobs. Going to Indiana would be great if they have a shortage of teachers. But it's a bit expensive to move, especially if it is across country and for a low-paying job that goes from September to June. That's almost like moving across country to be a bartender.

Ok I get what you're saying. Could be good move
 

TLR Is Mental Poison

The Coli Is Not For You
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
46,172
Reputation
7,500
Daps
105,734
Reppin
The Opposite Of Elliott Wilson's Mohawk
Seriously though, how long until people are seriously talking about aptitude tests and tracking students into job training?
Right, why would we ever want kids to have any practical knowledge or skills when capitalists and the state can provide for all

We should just do away with schools completely and let kids learn as they wish, on their own time, in their own way. They will figure it out.
 

Tate

Kae☭ernick Loyalist
Joined
Aug 3, 2015
Messages
4,274
Reputation
795
Daps
15,042
Right, why would we ever want kids to have any practical knowledge or skills when capitalists and the state can provide for all

We should just do away with schools completely and let kids learn as they wish, on their own time, in their own way. They will figure it out.

Offering programs for trade skills is fine, forcing all those below a certain iq level out of the classroom is not.
 

TLR Is Mental Poison

The Coli Is Not For You
Supporter
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
46,172
Reputation
7,500
Daps
105,734
Reppin
The Opposite Of Elliott Wilson's Mohawk
Offering programs for trade skills is fine, forcing all those below a certain iq level out of the classroom is not.
Who said anything about forcing those below a certain iq level out of classrooms?

Problem here is resources and resources management. As far as I'm concerned theres no better place for us as a society to spend money than education. But there has never been a time where practical knowledge was never important, nor will there ever be, and now is no exception. Similarly not much sense in investing in education if we arent allowed to measure its effectiveness empirically. Teachers shouldn't be forced to teach to tests but kids should be tested on what they know
 

Tate

Kae☭ernick Loyalist
Joined
Aug 3, 2015
Messages
4,274
Reputation
795
Daps
15,042
Who said anything about forcing those below a certain iq level out of classrooms?

Problem here is resources and resources management. As far as I'm concerned theres no better place for us as a society to spend money than education. But there has never been a time where practical knowledge was never important, nor will there ever be, and now is no exception. Similarly not much sense in investing in education if we arent allowed to measure its effectiveness empirically. Teachers shouldn't be forced to teach to tests but kids should be tested on what they know

Uh, me. That's what tracking means. Taking students who don't score highly on certain tests and segregating them from others.
 

Tate

Kae☭ernick Loyalist
Joined
Aug 3, 2015
Messages
4,274
Reputation
795
Daps
15,042
So what's your solution, if we can't act on test scores.

Who said we can't act on test scores? We can't shut down someone's education because they failed a language exam in 6th grade and send them off to welding school. Which is what tracking into job training is about.
 
Top