"Infinity" as a concept is just a fantasy.

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The Matrix is the my fave. World of illusion. But what does that LITERALLY MEAN.

One example is language itself. And by extension using figures to embody math.

The word "terrorist" can change a person's status to the status of a roach. The "terrorist" is 100% evil and the only fix is to destroy them.

But if you ask the "terrorist", he calls himself a "freedom fighter". And to the people he is fighting for, he's something noble. A "martyr" or a "hero".

Words applied to the human animal do not change anything about them. Wether terrorist, or hero, the objective reality of this creature is something different than the words can contain. Cause already there's opposite words being used to describe the same organism, and even if you agreed that the person is a "hero" you could find "non hero" details about their actions.

Likewise with "math". It's very useful for practical things. But people extend math out to some Platonic reality (there is no "number 4". Like, floating out in the cosmos. The digit itself just "existing" somewhere).

The point at which the concept deviates from reality (like dark matter/energy, 11 spatial dimensions from some interpretations of quantum theory, or INFINITY) then it just becomes a mental game or a fantasy.

There is no "Infinity" each actual thing you measure will have some finite value. That value might be unimaginably large, but it is always finite.

 

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The Matrix is the my fave. World of illusion. But what does that LITERALLY MEAN.

One example is language itself. And by extension using figures to embody math.

The word "terrorist" can change a person's status to the status of a roach. The "terrorist" is 100% evil and the only fix is to destroy them.

But if you ask the "terrorist", he calls himself a "freedom fighter". And to the people he is fighting for, he's something noble. A "martyr" or a "hero".

Words applied to the human animal do not change anything about them. Wether terrorist, or hero, the objective reality of this creature is something different than the words can contain. Cause already there's opposite words being used to describe the same organism, and even if you agreed that the person is a "hero" you could find "non hero" details about their actions.

Likewise with "math". It's very useful for practical things. But people extend math out to some Platonic reality (there is no "number 4". Like, floating out in the cosmos. The digit itself just "existing" somewhere).

The point at which the concept deviates from reality (like dark matter/energy, 11 spatial dimensions from some interpretations of quantum theory, or INFINITY) then it just becomes a mental game or a fantasy.

There is no "Infinity" each actual thing you measure will have some finite value. That value might be unimaginably large, but it is always finite.


I fully believe in reincarnation, or the idea of returning to the universe at least, and sometimes I think about the inevitable end of the universe and what will happen to our energy when it ceases.


It's unsettling :damn:
 

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I fully believe in reincarnation, or the idea of returning to the universe at least, and sometimes I think about the inevitable end of the universe and what will happen to our energy when it ceases.


It's unsettling :damn:

Unsettling is one way to describe it. I find it utterly terrifying.

Everyone finds out the answer to this. At death. Right at that last instant of life you understand it all. This mystery.

I call it trying to grab the dragon's tail. You're literally trying to crack the mystery of death while you're alive.

If you grab that tail you do indeed find out. Cause it will kill you.
 

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Using a lot of words to say nothing at all.

Infinity is admission of the unknown. Very simple. If you can’t answer it, it’s infinite. Your entire diatribe is thrown in the bushes when you said this:

There is no "Infinity" each actual thing you measure will have some finite value. That value might be unimaginably large, but it is always finite.

:wtf: The fukk

Webster’s definiton of Finite: having a specific tense, number, and person.

Coli breh definition: Unimaginably large

Never go into math , or speech writing
 

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Using a lot of words to say nothing at all.

Infinity is admission of the unknown. Very simple. If you can’t answer it, it’s infinite. Your entire diatribe is thrown in the bushes when you said this:



:wtf: The fukk

Webster’s definiton of Finite: having a specific tense, number, and person.

Coli breh definition: Unimaginably large

Never go into math , or speech writing

Now.

Tell me what thing that is measurable

is not finite.

Size of the observable universe.

Number of particles in the observable universe.

Multiply any measurable value by two. Or by a billion. Still results in a finite number.
 

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Using a lot of words to say nothing at all.

Infinity is admission of the unknown. Very simple. If you can’t answer it, it’s infinite. Your entire diatribe is thrown in the bushes when you said this:



:wtf: The fukk

Webster’s definiton of Finite: having a specific tense, number, and person.

Coli breh definition: Unimaginably large

Never go into math , or speech writing
Yeah, until something so large it can't be measured is actually measured it's infinite.
 

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Infinity can exist to a phenomenon that is constantly expanding. For the notion of “space is infinite” let’s look at it (I’m not saying space is infinite, I don’t know :manny: I’m just talking about the concept and the words):

You are using space as a fixed “thing” but you should look at space like an event.

It’s an event that is going to keep growing/expanding/“going” forever.

So there is no end point. There are no boundaries, it’s size is unable to be determined because it is constantly expanding. Therefore it’s infinite in size. The ability and time it takes to quantify the size is slower than the rate of expansion :yeshrug:
 

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Likewise with "math". It's very useful for practical things. But people extend math out to some Platonic reality (there is no "number 4". Like, floating out in the cosmos. The digit itself just "existing" somewhere).

But bro, you don't know that for sure. Maybe there is a number 4.
 
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Now.

Tell me what thing that is measurable

is not finite.

Size of the observable universe.

Number of particles in the observable universe.

Multiply any measurable value by two. Or by a billion. Still results in a finite number.

I don’t get what you’re trying to say.

Probably bc you have it backwards if you think I need to provide answers. No, YOU need to answer since you said infinity doesnt exist :heh: Finite = measurable, which = answers.

So, you tell ME how much solar energy we have ? How much oxygen supply exists? What is the measure of, idk…. WIND. Give me numbers Finity man
 

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Inifinity is a concept of the mind, as we obviously as humans are incapable of actually experiencing/studying it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

This sounds good but it’s incorrect. You’re using infinity as a representation of ‘unknown’, whereas infinity is relative to measure. That’s its. It’s very straight forward it’s not a figment of imagination.

The bottom of the ocean. Finite. 35,814 feet

The world’s oil supply. Finite. ~ 1.73 trillion barrels

The world’s oxygen supply. Infinite. It’s endless.
 
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