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Oh you established it? :skip:

Very impressive, except I stated I was white ever since I registered here. I even had it in my signature to save idiots like you the effort of "establishing" it.:heh:
Breh, its not only the fact that you're white. I befriend your people, we straight. They're fun to do drugs with and what have you

But you're just terribly c*nty & pretentious. Its annoying as fukk. People like you got they nose up in the air online cause they deal with a lot of insecurities in real life, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll take an L if you prove me wrong and show us the kind of broads you piping:sas2:
 

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So, you're telling me that black people moved into an area, dehumanized another race despite being economically dependent on them, meanwhile spreading disease and killing off the natives? Come on, man. I'm not even saying that white people are inherently evil but that just sounds silly for you to say my proof is none at all. Furthermore, those few broad details I mentioned are only the tip of the iceberg and you know it.
So in the history of humanity black people(or other races) didn't enslave, didn't torture, didn't rape, didn't conquer etc. both as a race and on an individual level? There are no black pedophiles, serial killers etc?
That ties into my earlier post, where do you draw the line? How do you categorize evil? Based on which criteria do you arbitrarily slap the definition of inherently evil on someone?

I once read an argument on this board that Africans were not to be blamed for selling their people into slavery because they didn't know how savage European slavery was etc.
Man please. You're still treating another human being as property. You're still ripping him away from his family and his home. You're still fukking up his life. It's precisely this type of mental acrobatics and apologetics that makes me laugh at the "militants" on this board.
 

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But you're just terribly c*nty & pretentious. Its annoying as fukk. People like you got they nose up in the air online cause they deal with a lot of insecurities in real life, correct me if I'm wrong.
Right. I'm c*nty and pretentious because I try to express myself properly and coherently. Because I don't partake in the circle jerking and groupthinking here. Because I don't jump on every bandwagon just to get daps and reps. Because I like to debate using logic and critical thinking instead of insults and "neg trains".

All I can say is I'm guilty.

I'll take an L if you prove me wrong and show us the kind of broads you piping:sas2:
If you mean quality-wise, I piped them all over the spectrum. My last girlfriend was a bit of a butterface, if you must know.
 

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So in the history of humanity black people(or other races) didn't enslave, didn't torture, didn't rape, didn't conquer etc. both as a race and on an individual level? There are no black pedophiles, serial killers etc?
That ties into my earlier post, where do you draw the line? How do you categorize evil? Based on which criteria do you arbitrarily slap the definition of inherently evil on someone?

I once read an argument on this board that Africans were not to be blamed for selling their people into slavery because they didn't know how savage European slavery was etc.
Man please. You're still treating another human being as property. You're still ripping him away from his family and his home. You're still fukking up his life. It's precisely this type of mental acrobatics and apologetics that makes me laugh at the "militants" on this board.
i always found it irresponsible and stupid when whites use the excuse, "oh well africans had slaves too and sold them to whites." there is a huge fukking difference when you turn a person into a slave from cultural warfare, than exploiting a whole fukking race and exporting them all over the americas taking them aways from their land, culture and dehumanizing them to it's lowest point for hundreds of years doing free labor for your own profit.
 

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So in the history of humanity black people(or other races) didn't enslave, didn't torture, didn't rape, didn't conquer etc. both as a race and on an individual level? There are no black pedophiles, serial killers etc?
That ties into my earlier post, where do you draw the line? How do you categorize evil? Based on which criteria do you arbitrarily slap the definition of inherently evil on someone?

I once read an argument on this board that Africans were not to be blamed for selling their people into slavery because they didn't know how savage European slavery was etc.
Man please. You're still treating another human being as property. You're still ripping him away from his family and his home. You're still fukking up his life. It's precisely this type of mental acrobatics and apologetics that makes me laugh at the "militants" on this board.

Oh yeah, all of those acts have been committed throughout history by everyone. I'm not arguing that. It's blurry but I think I would draw the line at the part where people hypocritically founded a country based on "liberty" and "freedom" only to exclude everyone that wasn't a white male christian for centuries, a practice that is still in place today. Again, there are more details but I'd rather keep it simple and consistent.

I make jokes but I in no way advocate violence or any type of discrimination against anyone. All I'm trying to say is that white people have a reputation and have more than likely committed the worst atrocities in recent history. I'm not saying that they didn't do anything good either. However, I will say that a lot of the good that was done was at the expense of nonwhite peoples.
 

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i always found it irresponsible and stupid when whites use the excuse, "oh well africans had slaves too and sold them to whites." there is a huge fukking difference when you turn a person into a slave from cultural warfare, than exploiting a whole fukking race and exporting them all over the americas taking them aways from their land, culture and dehumanizing them to it's lowest point for hundreds of years doing free labor for your own profit.
It is stupid, and I'm not using it as an excuse. My point is that to act like you can't be morally responsible for enslaving another human being just because European slavery was worse is just mental gymnastics. Was African slavery as bad, no. But it was still slavery. You're still treating another human the way human beings are not meant to be treated.
 

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It's funny cause they been called inherently evil for a minute, you got Yahoo questions asking it :dead:
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Despite my better judgement I'm going to indulge you this time:

Not only is that not sufficient proof, but in fact is no proof at all. Zilch. There is no evil that white people did that other races didn't do.
At best you might be able to argue scale, but it's a weak argument since it's so dependent on a myriad of circumstances. If we were to extrapolate it on an individual scale, what is the difference between a person who commits 10 murders and a person who commits 20 murders? At which point do you draw the line?

If you want to go further and take it into the scientific realm, the differences in DNA between races are minute. So for the #inherently argument to have a leg to stand on, one would have to prove - using the scientific method - that that infinitesimal difference between the DNA of white people and the DNA of other races is responsible for our supposed inherent evilness. Good luck with that.
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In the end the only halfway plausible argument would be that the European 'cultural matrix' is evil. Which I suppose could be debated ad nauseam, as would any other 'cultural matrix'.
White people aren't inherently evil, they're just the best at it. :yeshrug:
 

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Oh yeah, all of those acts have been committed throughout history by everyone. I'm not arguing that. It's blurry but I think I would draw the line at the part where people hypocritically founded a country based on "liberty" and "freedom" only to exclude everyone that wasn't a white male christian for centuries, a practice that is still in place today. Again, there are more details but I'd rather keep it simple and consistent.

I make jokes but I in no way advocate violence or any type of discrimination against anyone. All I'm trying to say is that white people have a reputation and have more than likely committed the worst atrocities in recent history. I'm not saying that they didn't do anything good either. However, I will say that a lot of the good that was done was at the expense of nonwhite peoples.
Well of course America never lived up to its ideals - who or what does? - but it actually tried to and at least said it wanted to. Often it succeeded.

For all this talk about the happy day when "Edomite" civilization crumbles etc, it's going to be a sad day in history when America finally goes the way of Rome(and it's rapidly approaching that point).

The problem with these "evils of the West" debates on the internet is that they are, strictly speaking, mostly speaking theoretical and subjective. I've been to the Philipines and a woman there offered to sell me her baby(points baby to me "baby dollars"), because of the soul crushing poverty and disease there. Trust me, actual experiences like that put things into perspective.
 

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^^^and you can't use the existence of slavery as a human institution to downplay those boats, those whips, and the decimation of your culture. the rapes, the force feeding, the lynching....

both were bad. one is waaaay worse.
 

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Despite my better judgement I'm going to indulge you this time:

Not only is that not sufficient proof, but in fact is no proof at all. Zilch. There is no evil that white people did that other races didn't do.
At best you might be able to argue scale, but it's a weak argument since it's so dependent on a myriad of circumstances. If we were to extrapolate it on an individual scale, what is the difference between a person who commits 10 murders and a person who commits 20 murders? At which point do you draw the line?

If you want to go further and take it into the scientific realm, the differences in DNA between races are minute. So for the #inherently argument to have a leg to stand on, one would have to prove - using the scientific method - that that infinitesimal difference between the DNA of white people and the DNA of other races is responsible for our supposed inherent evilness. Good luck with that.
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In the end the only halfway plausible argument would be that the European 'cultural matrix' is evil. Which I suppose could be debated ad nauseam, as would any other 'cultural matrix'.
You're REALLY not getting the point here.

Its OBVIOUSLY an exaggeration, but its used to poke fun at a serious issue.

There are only a handful of LEGIT black supremacists on here that I think are that way in "real life" but for you to be using these arguments that WE ALL KNOW, isn't helping you.

Simply put, we're all trolling, but we're kinda not.

Do you see the point?
 

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Well of course America never lived up to its ideals - who or what does? - but it actually tried to and at least said it wanted to. Often it succeeded.

For all this talk about the happy day when "Edomite" civilization crumbles etc, it's going to be a sad day in history when America finally goes the way of Rome(and it's rapidly approaching that point).

The problem with these "evils of the West" debates on the internet is that they are, strictly speaking, mostly speaking theoretical and subjective. I've been to the Philipines and a woman there offered to sell me her baby(points baby to me "baby dollars"), because of the soul crushing poverty and disease there. Trust me, actual experiences like that put things into perspective.

White Americans are responsible for that soul crushing poverty in the Philippines.

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It is stupid, and I'm not using it as an excuse. My point is that to act like you can't be morally responsible for enslaving another human being just because European slavery was worse is just mental gymnastics. Was African slavery as bad, no. But it was still slavery. You're still treating another human the way human beings are not meant to be treated.
you can't make the comparison, because it is not the same. slavery is evil, period. but the atlantic slave trade changed the world historically considering how many countries were involved. what's criminal is how whites have tride to ostracize what really went on... damn, i guess we are evil. :damn:
 
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