INTERESTING STAT IN KOBE VS. JORDAN DEBATE.

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Dude the only point you have is on top of your head. Jordan still averaged over 23 points per game with Payton on him you mope. Hell the Bulls had a 3-0 series lead on Seattle; so the series wasn't even competitive until Seattle won a couple of games in their home arena, before heading back to Chicago to be closed out. Of course Seattle played better at home, but the Bulls were already winning the series. Wow!!!


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NONE OF THIS CHANGES WHAT I SAID...CONGRATS ON BEIN THE WORST DEBATER I'VE DEALT WITH IN YEARS.
 

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Bulls took their foot off the gas after going up 3-0 against Sonics. Payton played great D on MJ. MJ felt no threat of losing the series to Sonics.
 

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PAYTON WAS A SECONDARY DEFENDER ON JORDAN...PRIMARY DEFENDER WAS HERSEY HAWKINS, AND WHEN PAYTON FINALLY GUARDED JORDAN, HE PLAYED BAD AND BULLS LOST 2 OF 3....SO THAT ONLY FURTHER PROVES MY POINT BRUH.

It was part time. Hersey/McMillan took a good amount of the pressure off of Payton up until crunch time. Crunch time was when Karl moved Payton over to Jordan defensively in games 1-3. Games 4-6 Payton took it upon himself to primarily guard Jordan. This does not change the fact that Payton still switched off on Jordan throughout the game while taking over defensive duties in the last few minutes.







Why do you insist on saying Hersey/McMillan/Schrempf EXCLUSIVELY played Jordan/Pippen? You'd have to be crazy (and also pretty ignorant to ignore a half hour worth of footage..) to say that Payton didn't spend any time guarding Jordan. That's ignoring factual evidence.

Will you ever admit that Payton>Prince defensively? Prince was good but c'mon now...
 

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NONE OF THIS CHANGES WHAT I SAID...CONGRATS ON BEIN THE WORST DEBATER I'VE DEALT WITH IN YEARS.

This was not a debate. The guy with the metrics totally schooled you . http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14725674/

The rest of what you wrote is this:
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It was part time. Hersey/McMillan took a good amount of the pressure off of Payton up until crunch time. Crunch time was when Karl moved Payton over to Jordan defensively in games 1-3. Games 4-6 Payton took it upon himself to primarily guard Jordan. This does not change the fact that Payton still switched off on Jordan throughout the game while taking over defensive duties in the last few minutes.







Why do you insist on saying Hersey/McMillan/Schrempf EXCLUSIVELY played Jordan/Pippen? You'd have to be crazy (and also pretty ignorant to ignore a half hour worth of footage..) to say that Payton didn't spend any time guarding Jordan. That's ignoring factual evidence.

Will you ever admit that Payton>Prince defensively? Prince was good but c'mon now...




AGAIN, MY POINT STILL STANDS THAT JORDAN PLAYED CONSIDERABLY WORSE ONCE HE HAD A LEGIT DEFENDER ON HIM....BESIDES THAT, PAYTON IS A POINT GUARD WHO WAS GIVEN THE TASK OF GUARDING OUT OF POSITION. JORDAN IS MUCH BIGGER THAN PAYTON, WHILE PRINCE IS TALLER/LONGER THAN KOBE. PAYTON WAS BETTER AT DEFENDING POINT GUARDS, PRINCE WAS BETTER AT DEFENDING WINGS. EITHER WAY, WHEN U SEE THAT JORDAN PLAYED WORSE ONCE PAYTON WAS PLAYING HIM PRIMARILY, WHY EVEN BRING THAT UP? CUZ THAT ONLY FURTHER PROVES MY INITIAL POINT OF JORDAN DOING A LOT OF DAMAGE DUE TO THE POOR DEFENSES HE PLAYED....WHEN HE FACED RODMAN, HE WAS ALSO SLOWED DOWN. SO BRINGIN THIS SHIIT UP IS A MOOT POINT ON YALLS BEHALF.
 

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This was not a debate. The guy with the metrics totally schooled you . http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14725674/

The rest of what you wrote is this:
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ALL HE DID WAS PULL UP A BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS STATS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY INITIAL POINT....BECAUSE IF KOBE PLAYED IN THE 80S, AND HAD A PLAYER LIKE PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, HIS STATS WOULDA SURPASSED THE ONES HE POSTED FOR MJ. THATS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD :snoop:
 

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ALL HE DID WAS PULL UP A BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS STATS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY INITIAL POINT....BECAUSE IF KOBE PLAYED IN THE 80S, AND HAD A PLAYER LIKE PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, HIS STATS WOULDA SURPASSED THE ONES HE POSTED FOR MJ. THATS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD :snoop:

The only meaningless stats in this whole thread were these: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14710734/

shyt went downhill from there.
 

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you ever notice the nikkas who type in all caps are always woat posters?

Plus this hypothetical scenario fails to take into account that in 80s Kobe would've been drafted outta college instead of high school and would've ended playing for some garbage team like the clippers his whole career and would've had a much tougher time winning 5 rings.
Basically what his career has been since Shaq
Being the main guy instead the side kick
 

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HOW CAN U BE A SIDEKICK WIT A HIGHER SCORING AVERAGE IN THE PLAYOFFS?
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THEY WERE A 1-2 PUNCH, AND SHAQ HAD SENIORITY CUZ HE WAS OLDER....BUT ANY1 WHO WATCHED DURIN THAT PERIOD WILL TELL U THAT THEY TOOK TURNS LEADING. KOBE OWNED THE PLAYOFFS AND SHAQ OWNED THE FINALS. SIMPLE AS THAT.
Now they took turns leading

:mjlol:

Kobe even said he was the sidekick breh stop embarrassing yourself
 

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ALL HE DID WAS PULL UP A BUNCH OF MEANINGLESS STATS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY INITIAL POINT....BECAUSE IF KOBE PLAYED IN THE 80S, AND HAD A PLAYER LIKE PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, HIS STATS WOULDA SURPASSED THE ONES HE POSTED FOR MJ. THATS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD :snoop:
This Kobe play in the 80's :mjlol:


This Bean in the 80's :laff:
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you ever notice the nikkas who type in all caps are always woat posters?

Plus this hypothetical scenario fails to take into account that in 80s Kobe would've been drafted outta college instead of high school and would've ended playing for some garbage team like the clippers his whole career and would've had a much tougher time winning 5 rings.
Basically what his career has been since Shaq
Being the main guy instead the side kick


IF KOBE WAS IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION AS MJ, GIVEN A TEAM TO HIMSELF FROM THE JUMP, AND THEN HAVIN THE LUXURY OF PLAYIN WIT PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME... 32 PPG CAREER AVERAGE + 8 TITLES MINIMUM (CONSIDERING KOBE WOULDA NEVER RETIRED IN 93)
 
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