Pillmattic
Banned
I think it does a lot but the music still has to be good at the end of the day pac music still go till this day shyt he recorded and post death
Internet nikkas in the 90s used to hate on rappers worse than thecoli
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I be trying to tell nikkas. They be like "2pac has statues in Africa"..my nikkas..thats AFTER he died and becuz
of what happened to him and Biggie. Like it or not that beef and their deaths and everything after (the dedications etc) did
alot for hip-hop on a global scale
of what happened to him and Biggie. Like it or not that beef and their deaths and everything after (the dedications etc) did
alot for hip-hop on a global scale
A lot of it is legacy, mystique and marketing. He did well while alive, but none of this godlike status or fandom. He was a good rapper who made some good music.
Iverson_64
Superstar
His movie career was popping too though, wasn't it?
Juice was huge in the hood/Black circles, but he never topped that. Nobody was raving like he was next, but we saw serious potential.
tbh it really wasn’t. He was in movies but that was the era where movie stars ruled. So it was always gon be a cap for him based of his previous history. He was never going to get to will smith status
DaveyDave
Superstar
Even most of the movies he’s known for came out after he died or that same year. Like we all watched Juice and Above The Rim and Poetic Justice but the joints like Gridlocked, Gang Related they came out in 97. Bullet was much lesser known I think, a bit of a dodgy low budget movie with Mickey Rourke before he was back in hollywoods good graces and that’s came out some time in 96 I think. I can’t remember how much Pac was actually in that one, only watched it once in 97/98 or something
Peabo Bryson
All Star
Interesting to see that Nas 'It Was Written' thread... Just like I've said numerous times on here, IWW was NOT widely rejoiced about when it came out, from true Nas fans at the time. It was a let down and disappointment for the most part if you were still high off 'Illmatic'. Most considered the album to just be 'OK'. But let the revisionist tell it, IWW was an instant classic since day one.... and it's from revisionists who weren't old enough in 1996 to have even really peeped the album like that. I will admit, it disappointed me a bit in 1996 but over the years, it has grown on me and especially listening to it now, it is a fukking classic by all means compared to what hip hop became years later.
The 2Pac fakers are the worst though... some of y'all were 5 years old when Pac got killed, yet you front like you was aware of his impact and music in real time back then. So you were 2 years old reciting lyrics to 2Pacalypse Now album? 3 years old in your kiddie pool re-enacting the 'I Get Around' video? Nope. And we can see right through you. Stop it.
The 2Pac fakers are the worst though... some of y'all were 5 years old when Pac got killed, yet you front like you was aware of his impact and music in real time back then. So you were 2 years old reciting lyrics to 2Pacalypse Now album? 3 years old in your kiddie pool re-enacting the 'I Get Around' video? Nope. And we can see right through you. Stop it.
Truth, there was peer pressure to choose sides
And plenty clung to it after they passed. Feel like most got over that though and recognized the greatness of both
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
Seems like internet forums back then were nothing more than whiners and complainers. A lot of Simpsons episodes from back then were trashed when they came out, then reappraised as classics a couple years later.
And yeah, I could definitely buy the idea that a lot of (older) people hated Pac back then. They made a joke on RAW about him getting shot while he was fighting for his life in the hospital.
And yeah, I could definitely buy the idea that a lot of (older) people hated Pac back then. They made a joke on RAW about him getting shot while he was fighting for his life in the hospital.
To Hip Hop fans yes, they were mad Nas made a commercial album and said he sold out
It was Written went platinum sold way more copies than Illmatic, and was easily more well received than illmatic, what are you talking about
Not true at all, none of them were Pac
Pac was infamous before he died that's why his death was a huge thing, everything Pac did made news
if Eminem died it would've been big news then people would've moved on same with 50
Seems like internet forums back then were nothing more than whiners and complainers. A lot of Simpsons episodes from back then were trashed when they came out, then reappraised as classics a couple years later.
And yeah, I could definitely buy the idea that a lot of (older) people hated Pac back then. They made a joke on RAW about him getting shot while he was fighting for his life in the hospital.
It's just one post, the internet forums then ain't no different than now, you have people's opinions
That's the thing 80% of IWW listeners in 1996 never heard Illmatic and that percentage is higher outside the northeast
For most parts of the country IWW was their intro to Nas and it was a huge album well received by most of the public
The type of dude posting about rap online in 1996 the exact type of "purist" who would have hated IWW
Peabo Bryson
All Star
I'm talking from experience and I know exactly what I'm talking about. I specifically said it wasn't widely rejoiced about by true Nas fans at the time. I did NOT say it wasn't widely received overall, by the mainstream (from the Lauryn Hill push at the time - Fugees were the biggest thing on earth at that moment.) My point was, the die hard Nas heads did not love the album at the time and that is the truth. For some reason when I make this statement it really gets some folks' panties in a bunch, I don't know why. It's not like I said that the album was trashed by heads, I just state the truth...and that is that ALOT of Nas 'stans' at the time were VERY disappointed with it. I don't see why that's a crazy thing to say? It's what it was...