Iranian pop star sentenced to DEATH for insulting Muhammad

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So I say the Muhammad of the QURAN isn’t the same Muhammad I know from history! :youngsabo:


Actually, his REAL name was QUTHAM IBN ABD AL-LAT :leon:
that was muhammads cousin, and he spread islam to what is now uzbekistan

not that it matters anyway. im pretty sure joseph smith saw how muhammed bullshytted people and used that to start mormonism

like yeah, an illiterate god herder in the 600s wrote a book and was able to passionately argue and convince others to start a new church, before riding a fukking unicorn across the sunset. give me a fukking break
 

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Man, it's a losing battle.

It's been like 6 months and I still can't get these dweebs to post a Twitter link correctly.
Though to be fair, Nazi Elon Musk can eat a bag of dikks and rot in hell so we don't need to see that bullshyt anyway.


@RamsayBolton I just said this YESTERDAY.
 

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No it wasn't, you should find real information outside far right sources.

Show me proof it wasn’t his name. And show me what his name is.

I have proof.

One source being this book.




Go search within your own Muslim scholars writings and books in contrast to the Hadiths and you’ll find the answer

Just don’t believe what your Imams tell you about the ISLAMIC Muhammad

I’m talking about the historical person.

And he probably wasn’t “illiterate” as Islam teaches
 

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But it’s ok for Muslims to insult Jesus? :jbhmm:

I really respect Christians for putting up with this
:ehh:


I'm not Muslim but this is likely not in context.



AI Overview

What does the Quran say about Jesus?


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The Quran describes Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, the Messiah, born of a virgin, and one who performed miracles. It also emphasizes that Jesus is "the Word of God," a "spirit from Him," and "a messenger of Allah". The Quran rejects the idea of Jesus being the divine Son of God, emphasizing his created humanity.
Here's a more detailed look:
Jesus as a Prophet and Messenger:
The Quran refers to Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, sent to guide the Children of Israel.
He is considered a prominent prophet among the prophets of God.
The Quran states that Jesus will return to Earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat the Antichrist.
Jesus as the Messiah:
The Quran describes Jesus as the Messiah, a title also used in Christianity.
This title is often associated with the idea of a savior or a leader sent to usher in a new era.
Jesus's Miracles and Birth:
The Quran recounts various miracles performed by Jesus, such as healing the blind and raising the dead.
It also emphasizes his miraculous birth from a virgin, Mary.
The Quran states that Jesus spoke as an infant.
Jesus as "Word of God" and "Spirit from Him":
The Quran refers to Jesus as "the Word of God" and "a spirit from Him," emphasizing his unique creation and divine status.
These descriptions are not to be interpreted as making Jesus divine, but as highlighting his special relationship with God.
Rejection of Jesus's Divinity:
The Quran explicitly rejects the idea of Jesus being the divine Son of God.
It emphasizes that God does not beget offspring.
The Quran states that Jesus is a servant of God and that he would never disdain to be a servant of God.
 

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I'm not Muslim but this is likely not in context.



AI Overview

What does the Quran say about Jesus?


+5
The Quran describes Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, the Messiah, born of a virgin, and one who performed miracles. It also emphasizes that Jesus is "the Word of God," a "spirit from Him," and "a messenger of Allah". The Quran rejects the idea of Jesus being the divine Son of God, emphasizing his created humanity.
Here's a more detailed look:
Jesus as a Prophet and Messenger:
The Quran refers to Jesus as a prophet and messenger of God, sent to guide the Children of Israel.
He is considered a prominent prophet among the prophets of God.
The Quran states that Jesus will return to Earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat the Antichrist.
Jesus as the Messiah:
The Quran describes Jesus as the Messiah, a title also used in Christianity.
This title is often associated with the idea of a savior or a leader sent to usher in a new era.
Jesus's Miracles and Birth:
The Quran recounts various miracles performed by Jesus, such as healing the blind and raising the dead.
It also emphasizes his miraculous birth from a virgin, Mary.
The Quran states that Jesus spoke as an infant.
Jesus as "Word of God" and "Spirit from Him":
The Quran refers to Jesus as "the Word of God" and "a spirit from Him," emphasizing his unique creation and divine status.
These descriptions are not to be interpreted as making Jesus divine, but as highlighting his special relationship with God.
Rejection of Jesus's Divinity:
The Quran explicitly rejects the idea of Jesus being the divine Son of God.
It emphasizes that God does not beget offspring.
The Quran states that Jesus is a servant of God and that he would never disdain to be a servant of God.

Exactly Breh, you’re not Muslim so you don’t know what they’re taught.

Being Islamic and following Jesus are two different things.

Yes AI is correct because it hasn’t been indoctrinated nor does it have a human brain to accept bias. One of my biggest point of disagreement with modern Islam is their understanding of Jesus and the fact that they don’t even believe or comprehend what their own book says about Jesus

the religion of Islam is Imam and scholar driven which follows an anti Christianity “us vs them” narrative which is more competitive than anything

Muslims are on the offensive against Christians and Churches who they often persecute and destroy

^ THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF THE VIDEO I POSTED

But we should be tolerate of their faith and all faiths?

FYI Most of what you quoted about Jesus Muslims don’t know or understand

They simply do what their told and follow religion/culture
 
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But it’s ok for Muslims to insult Jesus? :jbhmm:

I really respect Christians for putting up with this
:ehh:


Jesus would not see that as disrespect, unless you think Jesus puts himself on the level of God? He’s not and doesn’t we are slaves of God, like a child is a salve to their mother(context).
 

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Jesus would not see that as disrespect, unless you think Jesus puts himself on the level of God? He’s not and doesn’t we are slaves of God, like a child is a salve to their mother(context).
You’re imposing your Jesus on others

And if Christians weren’t supposed to put Jesus on that level of worship or deity then that would disagree with the scriptures

If Muslims see Christians as followers of the SAME Jesus then:

why do Muslims not agree with Jesus calling himself the “son” and calling God his FATHER?

Or saying Before Abraham was “I am” or Jesus saying “I and the father are one”?

Or claiming to be the “Alpha and Omega” with all authority in heaven & earth given to him?

Muslim don’t accept these scriptures.

If I’m Christian and you are a MUSLIM, by definition:

WE DONT BELIEVE IN THE SAME JESUS

So what is the REASON & LOGIC behind Muslims infringing on others beliefs?

Seeking to lesser the status or Nature of Jesus SPECIFICALLY directed at Christians who are going to church knowing they believe what the Bible says IS disrespectful to both Christians, Jesus in Bible and the JESUS OF HISTORY

Not only is historically inaccurate but it’s an unnecessary, underhanded subliminal jab

And you and I both know what it means.

Whether Jesus would be “disrespected” doesn’t matter. Ultimately he’s the judge right?

You have freedom to believe in him or not.

But why would Muslims seek to attack Christians beliefs intentionally And in the same vein get mad when ANYONE disagrees with Muhammad or is critical of him With good reason based on the information about him in MUSLIM SOURCES?

But the real question here is why are Muslims elevating Muhammad above the status of Jesus (or any bible prophet) to begin with?

Based on what’s written in the Quran, Jesus should be the greater respected figure in ISLAM and therefore should be more protected
 
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