Is an all PC future best for gamers or nah?

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I know it’s hard but TRY to not just think about yourself. People were afraid to go all digital just one Gen ago and now we know all digital is the near future :merchant:

When we do officially go all digital, you can argue we will essentially be an all PC platform by default, The cloud is a PC x1,000,000,000,000——>

The cloud WILL BE more powerful than the most powerful PCs in the future. We’ll be in games, in the Metaverse/etc. But before we got THAT far, will going full PC be a positive or negative? I guess I’m asking how can that be a positive? Not saying it can’t, just how is it??? The argument about sales is not true because console games are heavily discounted all the time if not straight up free (with gold of course)
 

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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.
The cloud is just a console on Xbox but can be upgraded whenever to whatever. Including a 3090. Amazon, Facebook will go that route if Microsoft doesn’t do it first, eventually it won’t even matter because you won’t need anything physical to play other than the controller you’re using and even that will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future.

But without going too far into the future, I guess you can say there will be a bait and switch. From console to PC to whatever the cloud grows into. I’m sure the government has access to other shyt, possibly from other worlds. Sounds crazy, but it isn’t…
 

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Most modern CPU and GPU can run most modern games. And they most have controller support. This is an outdated argument.

I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.

The cloud is just a console on Xbox but can be upgraded whenever to whatever. Including a 3090. Amazon, Facebook will go that route if Microsoft doesn’t do it first, eventually it won’t even matter because you won’t need anything physical to play other than the controller you’re using and even that will be a thing of the past in the not too distant future.

But without going too far into the future, I guess you can say there will be a bait and switch. From console to PC to whatever the cloud grows into. I’m sure the government has access to other shyt, possibly from other worlds. Sounds crazy, but it isn’t…

Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.
 
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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.

What isn't plug and play about PC?

The consoles are PCs they gotta download updates you have to install the games before you play, lmao what is wrong with yall
consoles are just less powerful PCs, that's it

Most PC gamers today were former console gamers, real gamers only care about performance none of that other shyt
 
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I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.



Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.

Most PC gamers were console gamers

what driver issues, this isn't 2007, driver's automatically download

most games are optimized especially newer ones, and if they develope games fo PC first they won't have any of those problems and the games will run better and look better than they do now

Also Consoles aren't profitable, all the money is made from software

microsoft and sony lose money on every console sold just to meet the target price for the consumer

but now games are getting more demanding and need more power, 500 dollars ain't be able to be meet if you people want to keep pushing the envelope of games today
 
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No cause people will want simplicity and PC, while my preferred platform, is not going to give people that plug-n-play experience they'll want.
Why not :ohhh: im curious :ohhh: cause every game I load up, the settings are automatically set :ohhh:is your PC different then everyone else PC and not do this? :ohhh:
 

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I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.



Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.
I havnt had driver or optimization issues in near 20 years :ohhh: stop looking at porn on your PC :manny:


Whats the difference between a driver update, and turning on your console saying it needs to be updated ?
 

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Essentially its the future for consoles....they have to be modular, especially with game sizes being what they are. The real fukkery is paying all that money for a console with less than a 1TB of memory. At some point they need to make the downloading of language packs optional ala FF remake. Sound files are either the worst compressed or not compressed at all. Turning 40gb games into 50+. They also need to let go of using mega textures...its cool, looking at giant monuments in the distance that you'll never go to, but I rather they work on the little details....games having no reflections in this era, is a slap in the face to the gamers.

Then there's the overheating issue. They need to just give up on trying to make the console look sleek, and focus on the tower builds, one big fan for hours of gameplay isn't going to cut it. All developers have to start working with Noctua and develop fans for consoles in the future, there's definitely a glaring problem when systems of today, are still dealing with the same issues of 10 years ago. And finally, controllers need to stop being gimmicks, you're paying more for a feature no one uses or talks about much, I rather the controllers having longer battery lives than anything else.
 

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Why not :ohhh: im curious :ohhh: cause every game I load up, the settings are automatically set :ohhh:is your PC different then everyone else PC and not do this? :ohhh:
I feel like the simplicity is more so if you are going to acquire a console vs pc. Going out and buying a console is cheaper and easier for the average fan then building a PC.

Obviously once you build your pc getting consoles seems not to make sense since you can get play every game either natively or through emulation. (Well you can’t emulate PS4 iirc, but majority of those exclusives are getting ported so that isn’t a big deal all things considered. )

At least the switch has the appeal of being portable.
 
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I feel like the simplicity is more so if you are going to acquire a console vs pc. Going out and buying a console is cheaper and easier for the average fan then building a PC.

Obviously once you build your pc getting consoles seems not to make sense since you can get play every game either natively or through emulation. (Well you can’t emulate PS4 iirc, but majority of those exclusives are getting ported so that isn’t a big deal all things considered. )

At least the switch has the appeal of being portable.

It's only cheaper because the companies sell them at a lost

and games are only going to get more demanding, they can't even get a console version of cyberpunk running right, its only going to get worst from here

PS5 can't even use HDMI 2.1 features, when they have been enjoyed on PC for two years now, two years from now its probably gonna be another HDMI update with better HDR that automatically simulates the frame rate of your native refresh rate even if your machine isn't powerful enough to get those frames
 

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All u nikkas saying console is simpler
Nah they turned consoles into pc basically.

when the last time u put a disc in and the game booted up wit no DL time.:ld:


Y’all gotta wait on Downloads updates n shyt.
Optimization is never a bad thing lol.

i want to be able to select what frames and how my graphics look
And move faster wit fov options



i don’t want my pubg glossy as apex legends

i want very low settings so it looks shyt like a ps2 graphically

just how I play that one game.

but having options is not complicated or discouraging to gaming

it’s actually a plus.
And keyboard n mouse is just way quicker and responsive then controller.

My movement in shooting games is hampered playing on controller now:what:
 

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I'm saying people aren't gonna want to deal with the troubles that comes with PC gaming. People want to plug in power supply, plug in HDMI, grab a controller and go. nikkas don't want to deal with driver issues, optimization issues, etc. No matter how you slice it, if PC is the future, there has to be a level of simplifying things for the console players that don't want to deal with a PC, especially if things start to go wrong. Things have gotten much easier in the last decade, sure, but console players will still say its not enough compared to the experience they've experienced pretty much their whole lives.

I'm a huge advocate for PC gaming, but let's be real, console nikkas don't want or care for that.



Be interesting to see, but do you think console players are gonna go from console to whatever were to come next if the hardware changed/disappeared? There are still people very adamant about buying disc.
When you say there’s still people adamant about having disc I say how many? If it’s an overwhelming minority then why would progress care? People had vhs collections too. Do people talk about their Blu-ray collections? How about uhd collections?
Isn’t GameStop about to go under?
I be Walmart all the time and the gaming section is always empty these days. I don’t even look, what for when it’ll be half that price on the dashboard itself. I got cyberpunk for $10 on disc, The instant I can transfer this to digital somehow it’s going down
All u nikkas saying console is simpler
Nah they turned consoles into pc basically.

when the last time u put a disc in and the game booted up wit no DL time.:ld:


Y’all gotta wait on Downloads updates n shyt.
Optimization is never a bad thing lol.

i want to be able to select what frames and how my graphics look
And move faster wit fov options



i don’t want my pubg glossy as apex legends

i want very low settings so it looks shyt like a ps2 graphically

just how I play that one game.

but having options is not complicated or discouraging to gaming

it’s actually a plus.
And keyboard n mouse is just way quicker and responsive then controller.

My movement in shooting games is hampered playing on controller now:what:
You feel hampered walking around in real life too because you can’t react that fast in real life. So you like playing fake style. You can turn on invincibility too!!! That’s the last obstacle from playing out on God mode
 

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[QUOTE="PS5, post: 44786709, member:9? If it’s an overwhelming minority then why would progress care? People had vhs collections too. Do people talk about their Blu-ray collections? How about uhd collections?
Isn’t GameStop about to go under?
I be Walmart all the time and the gaming section is always empty these days. I don’t even look, what for when it’ll be half that price on the dashboard itself. I got cyberpunk for $10 on disc, The instant I can transfer this to digital somehow it’s going down

You feel hampered walking around in real life too because you can’t react that fast in real life. So you like playing fake style. You can turn on invincibility too!!! That’s the last obstacle from playing out on God mode[/QUOTE]the fukk is u on about in this post to me

Bout to hamper your posting with a neg
I feel like u mocking me playboi :skip:
 
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people still pretend consoles arent just moderate level PCs
like everything isnt compatible with PC and the basis of consoles arent modeled after PC
whats even worse is cats also acting like games arent developed on PC


I understand the difference and novelty, but people act like its some wildly separate thing
 

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only reason I even have a console is because of the exclusives, but now even those are going to PC. might be a wrap for me and consoles:francis:

as for people that keep thinking pc is difficult. how? i understood how back in 2006 people could say that, but this day and age, almost everybody should know the basics of hardware. when its time to upgrade, its literally just opening up a box, and replacing a component, plug and play. theres a million tutorials on youtube, we didn't have those in the mid 00s. then again this day and age there's people that still don't know how to change a tire or oil change :francis:
 

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the fukk is u on about in this post to me

Bout to hamper your posting with a neg
I feel like u mocking me playboi :skip:
I don’t agree with the mouse keyboard being better but I can use it and it has its usefulness. But in terms of gaming, fps games are hampered by those types of controls because it turns everyone into super humans. If that’s the game angle then sure. And on PC it’s too easy to cheat on mouse and keyboards. I didn’t think all that was worth having slightly better graphics
 

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You won't be able to get Nintendo to give up the console revenue.
If that is the goal then it will be done:ufdup:
Just because there’sa cloud doesn’t mean Nintendo has to do the same now, but in the future definitely.

How you gonna play it when your future TV doesn’t have inputs and everything is wireless :ohhh:
Can you hook up a NES to your Smart TV without a specially made adaptor?
The same way activision has to sell, Nintendo will one day go thru a period where sales are not as good as they been. Nintendo continues to make systems that can’t run current Gen games. That’s problematic.

They don’t have much direct competition, they focus on family friendly games and have a bunch of IP that they milk and milk and milk. So it’s easy to see why they will eventually have competition because they only barely move their genres forward after creating basically the genre itself. The switch is portable and so is Gamepass. Gamepass gets lots of switch only titles and you don’t have to pay $30-40 for each one like you do on Nintendo. They are moving in on that territory as well as all others. This is the trajectory of the industry at the moment…
For most people PC’s are too complicated but it’s the best platform for gaming
When you say best platform you’re selfishly speaking about yourself which is the norm on forums. You think kids when you think games and kids wouldn’t want to game on a PC over a console, especially over a Nintendo. So your statement doesn’t apply to most gamers :francis:

PC has gaming numbers that are not properly quantified. There’s a billion PCs out there, so a game like world of Warcraft could have 100 million players but if you were to ask how many ppl have adequate gaming PCs that number would plummet to less than consoles.

That truth doesn’t get spoken on enough, sales of games tell a better story. NBA 2k and madden never sold well on PC. Isn’t that weird???

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