Is anyone else getting really tired of internet feminists?

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May I ask why you're giving people who are merely words on a screen that much consideration? Yes some people can be annoying but the option of ignoring them is always available. I guess I'm just not into putting that much weight into people in the cyber world. A lot of people come on the internet, develop a persona then show their ass and act out for kicks. I'm not saying your points aren't valid but when all is said and done once you shut off your computer they disappear...

I once read an article in Time several years back that had talked about how quickly the universe was expanding and how it was increasing in size with a speed that was increasing to an exponential degree. The author had asserted that the only other "world" that was increasing with an analogous amount of rapidity was that of the internet.

Why is this important? People still act like the internet isn't part of the real world. People act like the internet is still reserved for geeks that are addicted to WoW or people that live in their mother's basements, despite the fact that we can access whatever we want from a cell phone. The internet is very much a part of the real world because we've allowed it to connect ourselves to one another, it is the strongest determining factor in deciding Presidential elections, and it's where a huge bulk of our commerce is now done.

The internet is a part of real life, and just because we read these opinions from behind a screen, doesn't mean that they don't exist. I could just as easily avoid people that espouse these opinions face to face. Doesn't mean that they don't exist and that they can't have an effect on the way my life gets played out.

This is why I brought it up.
 

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^^Agreed. It's ignorant to just say log off. These blogs are the anonymous opinions of people you might encounter in your day to day life. With political issues, such as feminism, it's good to have an idea of what the general thought process is as they are likely to spill over into your real life.
 

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I agree. I only fukk with the "you can do it", women's empowerment type of feminist. Can't stand the play victim ones. Those women are weak to me, point blank.

I'm talking to this one female that's supper thorough. Submissive and all etc..... But she commands respect. Unlike those pseudo intellectual play victim self righteous ass hoes.
 

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I agree. I only fukk with the "you can do it", women's empowerment type of feminist. Can't stand the play victim ones. Those women are weak to me, point blank.

I'm talking to this one female that's supper thorough. Submissive and all etc..... But she commands respect. Unlike those pseudo intellectual play victim self righteous ass hoes.

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That's the kind of feminist my mom is. I don't like to call her a feminist thought because she insists on being held to a man's standard in an academic or business setting. I don't like how so many women insist that so much extra stuff is needed for their protection yet they're capable of doing anything a man does... and in HEELS!
 

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can someone summarize black feminism for me?





white women got black women to join their sides and branch off from the civil rights movement and make a feminist group movement to get rights for women when originally it was black people as a group trying to get our rights because they wanted us all to be slaves man woman and child
 

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But Coco, people act like this in real life also. A guy can have a SIMPLE argument(I'm not being sexist by the way so no offense intended) with a girl who isn't into him and she will spaz out about how she is being harrassed/stalked and someone is being "creepy" to them.

When like DaytoTaco said it could be handled a lot more maturely. I don't think it is a case of the cyber world because it happens both online and real life.

A lot of people just act irrationally

Oh yes I know it happens in real life and I agree there's usually an uncalled for response but my post was in reference to his use of internet feminists. While reading op's post I realized he mixed in real life situations but I overlooked it as him merely getting everything off his chest and venting.


I once read an article in Time several years back that had talked about how quickly the universe was expanding and how it was increasing in size with a speed that was increasing to an exponential degree. The author had asserted that the only other "world" that was increasing with an analogous amount of rapidity was that of the internet.

Why is this important? People still act like the internet isn't part of the real world. People act like the internet is still reserved for geeks that are addicted to WoW or people that live in their mother's basements, despite the fact that we can access whatever we want from a cell phone. The internet is very much a part of the real world because we've allowed it to connect ourselves to one another, it is the strongest determining factor in deciding Presidential elections, and it's where a huge bulk of our commerce is now done.

The internet is a part of real life, and just because we read these opinions from behind a screen, doesn't mean that they don't exist. I could just as easily avoid people that espouse these opinions face to face. Doesn't mean that they don't exist and that they can't have an effect on the way my life gets played out.

This is why I brought it up.

I completely understand the huge role the internet plays in our lives whether good or bad. I further acknowledge as the world rapidly evolves we use it frequently to connect to people around the world, conduct money matters, make life altering choices as well as come to other conclusions. What I think you failed to grasp was that we also choose to interact with people (feminists included) via the internet therefore we can also choose to disengage.

Your title states you have an issue with internet feminists but it seems as if your issue is with feminists as a whole. Saying log off was not an ignorant way of dismissing ideals I may not agree with it is the option we have via the beautiful thing that is the internet. If someone has ignorant views and or can't rationally discuss issues in an adult manner why would any sane person continue to engage them? Alternatively if actively engaged in a face to face discussion of course one can only try to offer the other party knowledge or try to argue their point with reason.
 

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What's wrong with being a femininst?

Don't we all acknowledge that women face inherent disadvantages due to societal imbalances?

Don't we all agree that all people should be treated equitably under the law regardless of gender?

Don't we believe that people should have complete control over their own bodies?

Don't we believe that if you do equal work, you should get equal pay?

Those who agree, why aren't we feminists? Women often face specific issues that men don't face, and therefore need a specific type of protection. What's wrong with this?
 

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Oh yes I know it happens in real life and I agree there's usually an uncalled for response but my post was in reference to his use of internet feminists. While reading op's post I realized he mixed in real life situations but I overlooked it as him merely getting everything off his chest and venting.




I completely understand the huge role the internet plays in our lives whether good or bad. I further acknowledge as the world rapidly evolves we use it frequently to connect to people around the world, conduct money matters, make life altering choices as well as come to other conclusions. What I think you failed to grasp was that we also choose to interact with people (feminists included) via the internet therefore we can also choose to disengage.

Your title states you have an issue with internet feminists but it seems as if your issue is with feminists as a whole. Saying log off was not an ignorant way of dismissing ideals I may not agree with it is the option we have via the beautiful thing that is the internet. If someone has ignorant views and or can't rationally discuss issues in an adult manner why would any sane person continue to engage them? Alternatively if actively engaged in a face to face discussion of course one can only try to offer the other party knowledge or try to argue their point with reason.

I gotcha. My problem was with that I tend to run into them a lot everywhere on Reddit, the other site I tend to lurk a lot, and ugh... they have a freakin' problem with EVERYTHING about men, EVER. If men aren't nice enough, they're misogynist a$$holes. If they're too nice, they're sexist nice guys that only want sex from being nice. If there aren't as much women as men in engineering fields and hard sciences, it's because of sexism, despite people being allowed to choose their own majors and women outnumbering men as college students. Women shouldn't have to join the selective service in order to vote, but men should because... like... rape culture and patriarchy.

I say internet feminists because people say what they really think on the internet. Now people are going to use some hyperbole in what they write for attention, but this affects what people think in a huge way because now you've got a whole generation of young women believing contradictory theories about gender and many wind up outright hating men or masculinity. This is because young people get their entertainment and social life catered to on the internet. My uncles were complaining to me the other day that their kids only want to do stuff on the computer now, while before they would just be itching to get outside to play. They see what people write. It's a powerful thing, and teaching the new generation of young people to hate men and anything masculine is extremely corrosive.

Embracing masculinity is a good thing for men to do and I try to talk about these issues in online forums because I'm honestly pretty worried about what the next generation of men will be like. I'm not anti femininity or anti-woman as you can tell from my first post, but I don't want young men thinking less of themselves just for being male. That's why I choose to continue to engage. I try to keep it to the appropriate boards, but lots of people bring their political ideologies into what should normally be boards that are free of this kind of discussion.
 

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What's wrong with being a femininst?

Don't we all acknowledge that women face inherent disadvantages due to societal imbalances?

Don't we all agree that all people should be treated equitably under the law regardless of gender?

Don't we believe that people should have complete control over their own bodies?

Don't we believe that if you do equal work, you should get equal pay?

Those who agree, why aren't we feminists? Women often face specific issues that men don't face, and therefore need a specific type of protection. What's wrong with this?

That's why I'm an egalitarian. I am no kind of feminist. I'm pro women's rights. Not a feminist.
 

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That's why I'm an egalitarian. I am no kind of feminist. I'm pro women's rights. Not a feminist.

Feminism is essentially egalitarianism. You have to understand the context in which feminism came out of, which was the sexual revolution and this was a time when women we're just becoming independent and just getting their rights. While many of the issues of the mid 20th century have largely been resolved, women's right to choose is under attack, equal pay for equal work has been under attack (:obama: helped a lil), and there are still issues of spousal abuse and under representation of minority women in the professional workplace.

Still work to be done :smugdraper:
 

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Its gonna backfire on them 20 years from now. We already have a generation of boys thinking that it's cool to wear nail polish and carrying purses. No more hands-on skills outside the computer or to build anything.
 

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Can what the T/S is talking about be described as feminism?

The rights, the control over body, etc. I get that.

But calling guys creeps and sabotaging is hateful. It's not even like a hoe, you actually got to commit actions on numerous people to be a hoe.

It's not like thinking your fat is mean. It can be mean to be honest. Attacking someone since their fat is mean but them saying their sexy and they aren't, that's delusion.

I don't get your point. It seems like you have no issues with feminists, you got an issue with bytches.

May I ask why you're giving people who are merely words on a screen that much consideration? Yes some people can be annoying but the option of ignoring them is always available. I guess I'm just not into putting that much weight into people in the cyber world. A lot of people come on the internet, develop a persona then show their ass and act out for kicks. I'm not saying your points aren't valid but when all is said and done once you shut off your computer they disappear...

:obama: /thread
 

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Can what the T/S is talking about be described as feminism?

The rights, the control over body, etc. I get that.

But calling guys creeps and sabotaging is hateful. It's not even like a hoe, you actually got to commit actions on numerous people to be a hoe.

It's not like thinking your fat is mean. It can be mean to be honest. Attacking someone since their fat is mean but them saying their sexy and they aren't, that's delusion.

I don't get your point. It seems like you have no issues with feminists, you got a issue with bytches.

This.
 

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I gotcha. My problem was with that I tend to run into them a lot everywhere on Reddit, the other site I tend to lurk a lot, and ugh... they have a freakin' problem with EVERYTHING about men, EVER. If men aren't nice enough, they're misogynist a$$holes. If they're too nice, they're sexist nice guys that only want sex from being nice. If there aren't as much women as men in engineering fields and hard sciences, it's because of sexism, despite people being allowed to choose their own majors and women outnumbering men as college students. Women shouldn't have to join the selective service in order to vote, but men should because... like... rape culture and patriarchy.

I say internet feminists because people say what they really think on the internet. Now people are going to use some hyperbole in what they write for attention, but this affects what people think in a huge way because now you've got a whole generation of young women believing contradictory theories about gender and many wind up outright hating men or masculinity. This is because young people get their entertainment and social life catered to on the internet. My uncles were complaining to me the other day that their kids only want to do stuff on the computer now, while before they would just be itching to get outside to play. They see what people write. It's a powerful thing, and teaching the new generation of young people to hate men and anything masculine is extremely corrosive.

Embracing masculinity is a good thing for men to do and I try to talk about these issues in online forums because I'm honestly pretty worried about what the next generation of men will be like. I'm not anti femininity or anti-woman as you can tell from my first post, but I don't want young men thinking less of themselves just for being male. That's why I choose to continue to engage. I try to keep it to the appropriate boards, but lots of people bring their political ideologies into what should normally be boards that are free of this kind of discussion.

Keyword here is Reddit. EWWWWW! LOL.

But to piggy back on #1 pick, the women you've described seem to be butt hurt, ignorant bytches who need to sit on someone's couch. The root of feminism is not anti-men it's equality for women. Their viewpoints may be based on stereotypes and or have no basis what so ever as well as issues that have occurred in their past. If the latter is the case trying to change their perception of what happened to them and the outcome of that situation may be extremely hard if not impossible.

I commend you for trying to engage them in thought provoking conversation but as a woman who likes to think of herself as an open minded non-objective person some ish is just too tiring to consider, lol. You may have to think about what you're trying to do. Based on what you've typed here you are the epitome of what they hate. Think about that for a second. They may not be receptive because they already hate you, think of you as the enemy or the cause of "their struggle". The staunch men haters will not care and proceed to bytch you out just because. I am a firm believer in healthy discussions amongst sane rational people but when the other side expresses ideals and viewpoints that are extremely on the other side of the spectrum sprinkled with batshyt crazy I refuse it in it's entirety. But that's just me. LOL.
 

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Keyword here is Reddit. EWWWWW! LOL.

But to piggy back on #1 pick, the women you've described seem to be butt hurt, ignorant bytches who need to sit on someone's couch. The root of feminism is not anti-men it's equality for women. Their viewpoints may be based on stereotypes and or have no basis what so ever as well as issues that have occurred in their past. If the latter is the case trying to change their perception of what happened to them and the outcome of that situation may be extremely hard if not impossible.

I commend you for trying to engage them in thought provoking conversation but as a woman who likes to think of herself as an open minded non-objective person some ish is just too tiring to consider, lol. You may have to think about what you're trying to do. Based on what you've typed here you are the epitome of what they hate. Think about that for a second. They may not be receptive because they already hate you, think of you as the enemy or the cause of "their struggle". The staunch men haters will not care and proceed to bytch you out just because. I am a firm believer in healthy discussions amongst sane rational people but when the other side expresses ideals and viewpoints that are extremely on the other side of the spectrum sprinkled with batshyt crazy I refuse it in it's entirety. But that's just me. LOL.

:salute:

Sounds like you've got yourself a healthy mind capable of healthy discussion. If only the rest could be more like you.

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