Is anyone here a polyglot? Need help with language learning.

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I’m working on 2 Latin languages rn

Portuguese and French. Put a back burner on Spanish it was too close to Portuguese and messing me up

Any tips? I’m struggling atm. Best app and best method of learning? Currently using Pimsleur And Babbel

Anyone hear try Mass immersion? You think that works?

I’m only doing those 2, lately I was doing Japanese and mandarin but I got lazy with studying kanji. I’ll make my way back towards Asia again in 6-7 months I need these 2 rn
Have you considered just spending real money for a real teacher? People overestimate how much it costs. In many cases it's actually cheaper than a pimsluer or doulingo subscription.


You'll just keep quitting and running in circles with these shortcuts. Its worse than just forgetting a few kanji because there will be structural issues if you self teach.

You'll make mistakes that you're not even aware of until a native points them out to you when you're in their country speaking silly. This happened to me when I tried to MacGyver a japanese solution through pinsluer, genki, and DLPT materials. Had me saying weird sht like nigete instead of hashiru for running to cath a train until a real native Japanese teacher told me i was silly.


I've mentioned it on here before but I am a bit of a language nerd.I've already been down that path as a polyglot of 5 languages, not counting native language.





I say its realistic for you because you are a grown adult and can legitimately afford to pay native speakers to teach you. You're lucky because your language pair has a lot of developing countries in it.

When i was picking up korean and Japanese i had to pay 15 per hour back in 2017. Three 2 hour sessions per week ran me 360 month. But it worked much better than these fugazi do-it-yourself programs. Spanish was cheap as hell to do domestically because of Venezuelans lacking work authorization but still needing income, so I could legitimately afford to pay $20 an hour by leveraging my local community of hispanics. A lot of the Hispanics were real professionals in their countries but their credentials couldn't cross over so they have to do menial work, but that isn't their limit.

But with your language pairs, i dont see what stops you from paying half or even a third what i paid back in 2017 for Japanese and Korean. Years later i picked up tagalog which was dirt cheap. Because $4 per hour is competitive there. But in your case specifically, i would recommend looking for a professional teacher in Brazil / mozabique or Haiti or Ivory Coast.

It was a bit different for me back in the day when I was sourcing these teaching arrangements. Back then Google Hangouts was still a thing and it was extremely easy to find a community of foreign language enthusiasts. I think your best bet now is to hit up the reddit pages for











If you place a post as a guest in these communities with the tagline that you are American and will pay with paypal , you will get a few bites. And also be very specific about the parts of these countries you target for employment. I could get a very cheap rate for a professional teacher of japanese or Korean because i specifically targeted far off prefectures like iwatte or jeju because I wouldn't play a lifestyle premium for a souel teacher or a tokyo teacher.


And i got a local teacher in 3rd tier Kisumu at $3.5 per hour.My last such engagement was with Kenya when I wanted to pick up Swahili two years ago. I was prepared to use PayPal, but the teacher was tech savvy enough.




As a rough estimate i think you could get a few biters for $7-$10 per hour for brazil, $2-$3 per hour in Mozambique , $3-$4 per hour in in ivory coast and another $3-$4 per hour in haiti. See what I mean about this being affordable? Also you weren't limited to just teachers of these languages to foreigners. You can also leverage certified teachers of English to the local population who are much more accessible since English is taught everywhere.

Also a secondary benefit of using the strategy is that you get a natural community of locals that know who You are when you finally get proficient enough to visit these places.:wow:




Third benefit is you are halfway to immersion if you're having semi daily convos with locals about their own current events. :blessed:
 
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-Immersion
-There’s an app where you can talk to native speakers for free. Forgot the name. I’ll share it later
-Watch movies/tv series in the target language with English subtitles. It helps you get used to the sound of it. Shoot for 30mins-an hour a day
 

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Have you considered just spending real money for a real teacher? People overestimate how much it costs. In many cases it's actually cheaper than a pimsluer or doulingo subscription.


You'll just keep quitting and running in circles with these shortcuts. Its worse than just forgetting a few kanji because there will be structural issues if you self teach.

You'll make mistakes that you're not even aware of until a native points them out to you when you're in their country speaking silly. This happened to me when I tried to MacGyver a japanese solution through pinsluer, genki, and DLPT materials. Had me saying weird sht like nigete instead of hashiru for running to cath a train until a real native Japanese teacher told me i was silly.


I've mentioned it on here before but I am a bit of a language nerd.I've already been down that path as a polyglot of 5 languages, not counting native language.





I say its realistic for you because you are a grown adult and can legitimately afford to pay native speakers to teach you. You're lucky because your language pair has a lot of developing countries in it.

When i was picking up korean and Japanese i had to pay 15 per hour back in 2017. Three 2 hour sessions per week ran me 360 month. But it worked much better than these fugazi do-it-yourself programs. Spanish was cheap as hell to do domestically because of Venezuelans lacking work authorization but still needing income, so I could legitimately afford to pay $20 an hour by leveraging my local community of hispanics. A lot of the Hispanics were real professionals in their countries but their credentials couldn't cross over so they have to do menial work, but that isn't their limit.

But with your language pairs, i dont see what stops you from paying half or even a third what i paid back in 2017 for Japanese and Korean. Years later i picked up tagalog which was dirt cheap. Because $4 per hour is competitive there. But in your case specifically, i would recommend looking for a professional teacher in Brazil / mozabique or Haiti or Ivory Coast.

It was a bit different for me back in the day when I was sourcing these teaching arrangements. Back then Google Hangouts was still a thing and it was extremely easy to find a community of foreign language enthusiasts. I think your best bet now is to hit up the reddit pages for











If you place a post as a guest in these communities with the tagline that you are American and will pay with paypal , you will get a few bites. And also be very specific about the parts of these countries you target for employment. I could get a very cheap rate for a professional teacher of japanese or Korean because i specifically targeted far off prefectures like iwatte or jeju because I wouldn't play a lifestyle premium for a souel teacher or a tokyo teacher.


And i got a local teacher in 3rd tier Kisumu at $3.5 per hour.My last such engagement was with Kenya when I wanted to pick up Swahili two years ago. I was prepared to use PayPal, but the teacher was tech savvy enough.




As a rough estimate i think you could get a few biters for $7-$10 per hour for brazil, $2-$3 per hour in Mozambique , $3-$4 per hour in in ivory coast and another $3-$4 per hour in haiti. See what I mean about this being affordable? Also you weren't limited to just teachers of these languages to foreigners. You can also leverage certified teachers of English to the local population who are much more accessible since English is taught everywhere.

Also a secondary benefit of using the strategy is that you get a natural community of locals that know who You are when you finally get proficient enough to visit these places.:wow:




Third benefit is you are halfway to immersion if you're having semi daily convos with locals about their own current events. :blessed:
I agree. Having an online teacher and lessons 1-3 times a week are good. Usually like $5-10 a lesson
 

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Have you considered just spending real money for a real teacher? People overestimate how much it costs. In many cases it's actually cheaper than a pimsluer or doulingo subscription.


You'll just keep quitting and running in circles with these shortcuts. Its worse than just forgetting a few kanji because there will be structural issues if you self teach.

You'll make mistakes that you're not even aware of until a native points them out to you when you're in their country speaking silly. This happened to me when I tried to MacGyver a japanese solution through pinsluer, genki, and DLPT materials. Had me saying weird sht like nigete instead of hashiru for running to cath a train until a real native Japanese teacher told me i was silly.


I've mentioned it on here before but I am a bit of a language nerd.I've already been down that path as a polyglot of 5 languages, not counting native language.





I say its realistic for you because you are a grown adult and can legitimately afford to pay native speakers to teach you. You're lucky because your language pair has a lot of developing countries in it.

When i was picking up korean and Japanese i had to pay 15 per hour back in 2017. Three 2 hour sessions per week ran me 360 month. But it worked much better than these fugazi do-it-yourself programs. Spanish was cheap as hell to do domestically because of Venezuelans lacking work authorization but still needing income, so I could legitimately afford to pay $20 an hour by leveraging my local community of hispanics. A lot of the Hispanics were real professionals in their countries but their credentials couldn't cross over so they have to do menial work, but that isn't their limit.

But with your language pairs, i dont see what stops you from paying half or even a third what i paid back in 2017 for Japanese and Korean. Years later i picked up tagalog which was dirt cheap. Because $4 per hour is competitive there. But in your case specifically, i would recommend looking for a professional teacher in Brazil / mozabique or Haiti or Ivory Coast.

It was a bit different for me back in the day when I was sourcing these teaching arrangements. Back then Google Hangouts was still a thing and it was extremely easy to find a community of foreign language enthusiasts. I think your best bet now is to hit up the reddit pages for











If you place a post as a guest in these communities with the tagline that you are American and will pay with paypal , you will get a few bites. And also be very specific about the parts of these countries you target for employment. I could get a very cheap rate for a professional teacher of japanese or Korean because i specifically targeted far off prefectures like iwatte or jeju because I wouldn't play a lifestyle premium for a souel teacher or a tokyo teacher.


And i got a local teacher in 3rd tier Kisumu at $3.5 per hour.My last such engagement was with Kenya when I wanted to pick up Swahili two years ago. I was prepared to use PayPal, but the teacher was tech savvy enough.




As a rough estimate i think you could get a few biters for $7-$10 per hour for brazil, $2-$3 per hour in Mozambique , $3-$4 per hour in in ivory coast and another $3-$4 per hour in haiti. See what I mean about this being affordable? Also you weren't limited to just teachers of these languages to foreigners. You can also leverage certified teachers of English to the local population who are much more accessible since English is taught everywhere.

Also a secondary benefit of using the strategy is that you get a natural community of locals that know who You are when you finally get proficient enough to visit these places.:wow:




Third benefit is you are halfway to immersion if you're having semi daily convos with locals about their own current events. :blessed:

I guess teacher it is, you think italki would work or nah or Just go to reddit and see if can get a teacher available?

I actually know a few amount of ppl in brazil from my last trip but I wasn't up able to have decent convo trying to kill that barrier this time around



-Immersion
-There’s an app where you can talk to native speakers for free. Forgot the name. I’ll share it later
-Watch movies/tv series in the target language with English subtitles. It helps you get used to the sound of it. Shoot for 30mins-an hour a day
italki, i know the exact app
 

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I guess teacher it is, you think italki would work or nah or Just go to reddit and see if can get a teacher available?

I actually know a few amount of ppl in brazil from my last trip but I wasn't up able to have decent convo trying to kill that barrier this time around




italki, i know the exact app
Yeah I’ve used that.
It’s actually called hellotalk. It’s free

I remember I was using it to learn/practice Portuguese. Endless supply of ppl to talk to. I was speaking to Brazilians at that time.
 

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Yeah there’s a ton of Cape Verdeans and Brazilians around me so no hesitation

I think grammar and syntax Is what’s killing me especially verb conjugation
Lemme guess Mass? Im in Medford :pachaha:

I dont know how regular verb forms are in Portuguese, if they are at all regular you just gotta hit the conjugation charts. Its annoying but theres no real easy way around it
 
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