Is basketball now a sport for the rich? Half players have a pro athlete parent

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Basketball requires being in the top 1% of height so it's expected that most NBA players come from really tall parents

This is the real key, having the resources is obviously a plus but it's the gene pool that's just as important. We all knew a 5'10 breh that could ball and jump out the gym growing up, that guy could become a millionaire but all the money in the world ain't making his kids 6'2+
 

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American football has the lowest bar of entry. You are tall and fast, play wide receiver. You can throw, play quarterback. You are fat and can take punishment, play offensive line. A position for almost everyone.
that's why it's America's pasttime and premier sport.

But even football players would love NBA contracts. If they were taller, 99% would rather hoop
 

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I can tell you’re plugged in and been around it breh. You get it. Me too. I have multiple family members who never made it to D1 or beyond despite having the talent. People who actually were selected to programs based on that talent but had crash out or plain dumb ass parents who didn’t know how to support them properly to get to the next level. I have so many stories.

posters are quite adept at reciting well circulated talking points.. but the depth that comes with life and experience is missing in discourse on this board (generally)
 

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Having a two parent household that generates a high income is going to give you the best chance to succeed in literally anything. Not even sure how it would be news or even need to be spoken about.
Because I’m saying that talent really isn’t what gets you anywhere it’s about connections.
 

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2 parents households have been mentioned several times over...

yes... an intact family is paramount..

but within these networks of legacies of stability and success they have single parent households as well....and those classic single parent tropes dont apply in those environments ... a household ran by a white woman and none of the children have any college debt type shyt

these processes extend well beyond the so called nuclear family...
White or black if your single parent isn’t poor sure you can have just as much success but that’s more rare. Also like you and the other guy who responded to said the environment is the most important thing so you don’t have crash outs. Ik plenty of people who had talent who just had a bad environment and crashed out. I think that’s another benefit of having a parent who’s done it is that they know whatever downfalls could come.
 

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I can tell you’re plugged in and been around it breh. You get it. Me too. I have multiple family members who never made it to D1 or beyond despite having the talent. People who actually were selected to programs based on that talent but had crash out or plain dumb ass parents who didn’t know how to support them properly to get to the next level. I have so many stories.
I agree with the bolded heavily I have a cousin who’s in the nfl rn and one who was like a borderline nfl player and they probably not even top 5 in terms of actual talent out of all my cousins but they came from better family structures and had more overall support
 

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White or black if your single parent isn’t poor sure you can have just as much success but that’s more rare. Also like you and the other guy who responded to said the environment is the most important thing so you don’t have crash outs. Ik plenty of people who had talent who just had a bad environment and crashed out. I think that’s another benefit of having a parent who’s done it is that they know whatever downfalls could come.


theres too much emphasis being placed on individuals... be it a mom a dad or both ... im talkin about entire ecosystems... where a parent(s) could be so called "poor" but their overall context of access is so rich that they and their children have great opportunity to fare well regardless

let along considering the isolated context of lot of black high income households find themselves in. their parents are poor... siblings and their children arent doing all that well and implications of such an ecosystem around your limited yet legitimate individual success

incomes lubricates and reinforce navigation of life... it doesn't make life (or shouldn't) ... its families with whole ass NO income and living it up... these lofty mansion filled suburbs have documented practices of families being legally impoverished on paper so their children gets even greater access to all kinds of academic scholarships and set asides etc

this game is deep... and black people aint even really playing it ... we gettin played
 

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Half is a reach. Y'all don't realize these high and middle schoolers have personal trainers now. Them shyts not free. Don't get me started on the AAU and travel teams. Kids are traveling across the country every weekend playing in these big events. Air fare, hotels, food...this shyt not free
My son is in elementary school, going to a trainer and plays AAU/travel ball. Been doing it since third grade. He's local though here in Northwest Indiana. He's played in Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Chicago. Starting early gets you connected. The local high school coach, where he'll be going, is going to put him in 12U hoops with Indiana Game, an Under Armour travel team in the fall. He'll be 11 in July. I would say my income is upper middle class.

I've met a few parents in really good neighborhoods who have their kids playing ball and paying trainers and all the other extras to help them develop their game. It's wild, I can't imagine any poor kid trying to get in the NBA unless they are freak athletes.

That's me and others like me. I do wonder why some kids are there, maybe a vanity or prestige thing but my son is likely to play D2 basketball or above post high school. If there wasn't a future here, I would not give it as much time as I do.
It doesn’t make for a better product but honestly who cares? Most guys wash out within 3-4 years and end up training or coaching the rest of their lives. Kids from the park who are skilled and have a chip will always make it because talent cant be denied. Non existe issue.

When we were growing up, sure. Now, nah. Connections breh. Sure, roses will still grow from the concrete but it's going to likely be kids that have had direction for some years.

The price of the training camps these parents put these kids in is crazy. They're so skilled now at a young age. The poor kid who just needed the right people around him growing to make it probably won't exsist anymore. Unless he's a physical freak of nature.

In my area, the local elementary schools 4th and 5th graders play in a basketball game against each other. The most recent one was last Friday. My son was not even going half speed and still put up 28 in three games. Each quarter was five minutes and he only played five quarters. It was pros vs joes playing out in real time.

How much is it to get your kid into AAU basketball?

Just curious.

Is there other options when it comes to youth basketball? or is AAU the only way for them to play team basketball outside of school.

School ball, if they have it, local leagues as well.

My son plays 16U in Jersey. Team fees were like 1500. They also travel so travel costs are incurred, plus they're gonna tax you going to the games, it's like $50 for a two day pass.

For higher level play, it's kinda the only game in town. Open runs in the town can only take you so far; iron sharpens iron and all that

This is dope. Team fees for my son are roughly the same. Gotta play against the best to get better. Like I said, if I didn't see a future in this for him, I would not be onboard with the cost, the time, etc but he's good and he's being developed as one of those ones for his high school. His 5th grade team finished third in the state and he was a big reason why. Team is so good, the school administration was cool with them using the school sponsored gear and the school team is running AAU right now against 5-6th grade teams.
 

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This is dope. Team fees for my son are roughly the same. Gotta play against the best to get better. Like I said, if I didn't see a future in this for him, I would not be onboard with the cost, the time, etc but he's good and he's being developed as one of those ones for his high school. His 5th grade team finished third in the state and he was a big reason why. Team is so good, the school administration was cool with them using the school sponsored gear and the school team is running AAU right now against 5-6th grade teams.
My son is not going to play college hoop, he's a varsity level guy at best, but I see the value in it even though it's pretty expensive. God has blessed me to make a decent living so I'm not overly concerned about it but his grades have never been better and learning how to work with others towards a common goal is a life lesson you want them to learn early. He also has a genuine love of the game and for him to understand it at a deeper level is definitely a value add.
 

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My son is not going to play college hoop, he's a varsity level guy at best, but I see the value in it even though it's pretty expensive. God has blessed me to make a decent living so I'm not overly concerned about it but his grades have never been better and learning how to work with others towards a common goal is a life lesson you want them to learn early. He also has a genuine love of the game and for him to understand it at a deeper level is definitely a value add.
Sports is one of, if not, the best builder of people. Working hard, dedication, teamwork, communication, discipline, sacrifice, being given direction, It's all there. Infinite value in sports.
 
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