Is being a dutiful Wife and Mother the Pinnacle of being a woman?

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i already take care of the family i was born into so i think that's my thing as far as the pinnacle of being a person period. if i happen to make another one with someone else i don't think it would change my morals or the person who i've become.

especially the wife part, because you see guys talking about how they have "wifeys" or actual wives and they still be online lusting after random people and freely talking about cheating and other fukkery.. braging "you see a fine woman and someone is tired of fukking her" like that is cute, "if a man is going to cheat, i doesn't matter how good the wife is", etc. so yeah, i wouldn't put how that marriage status turns out on my character unless i was actually to blame for it. just as i assume men who are divorced may not see themselves as less of a man or whatever

it takes two to make that wifey thing go right.

on the other hand, if i have a kid, yeah that will be my greatest endeavor. my kid shall be a legend :wow:
 
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I think in the circles that I’m in, it is. Even men are not taken serious until they’re married.
 
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African Peasant said:
This is not about me or you or our respective households. Put the micro-level aside.

This is about the necessity for any functioning and decent society to have a defined framework of what it means to be one of its members. Norms are necessary. A community left only to the individual desires of its members will only bread chaos. It's like an individual without any form of internal and external constraints or limits, he becomes crazy.

And norms do not exclude the existence of marginal.
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But what I described is an alternate framework that works similarly to more traditional frameworks, not just on an individual level. I grew up in a community that operated in such a way. My point is that rigid adherence to any one framework without taking honest inventory of the failures of it leads to chaos. That’s part of the reason we are where we are today. Just like there are many paths to chaos, there are multiple solutions to it as well. It doesn’t mean EVERY path is a good one, but it also doesn’t mean that there is only one way either.
 
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Booksnrain said:
But what I described is an alternate framework that works similarly to more traditional frameworks, not just on an individual level. I grew up in a community that operated in such a way. My point is that rigid adherence to any one framework without taking honest inventory of the failures of it leads to chaos. That’s part of the reason we are where we are today. Just like there are many paths to chaos, there are multiple solutions to it as well. It doesn’t mean EVERY path is a good one, but it also doesn’t mean that there is only one way either.
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It's an alternative as long as there is a reference. In the "everyone chooses what he's good for him" aka zero norm, there is no alternative model.

If a model is not working, you change it, you don't say that there is no model and everyone can do whatever crosses his mind. The reason we are where were today is because capitalism destroyed the traditional model and left nothing.

You always have marginal people, however, most people need a model of reference.
 
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UpAndComing said:
It obviously is :manny:


Talk to any hoe living her "hot girl summer". They all wish be someone's wife. They all want to be vulnerable with a man they respect and follow his lead. Doesn't matter how high her body count or how many trips to Dubai she gets from SIMPs

The only reason they don't is because it takes hard work and alot of Hoes are naturally lazy
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That biology at work so yes they have the urges.

but theres plenty of women who dont want marriage or children. They rather pursue career or keep a fit body and live life full of possibilities.

the reality is kids and marriage are an anchor.
 
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African Peasant said:
It's an alternative as long as there is a reference. In the "everyone chooses what he's good for him" aka zero norm, there is no alternative model.

If a model is not working, you change it, you don't say that there is no model and everyone can do whatever crosses his mind. The reason we are where were today is because capitalism destroyed the traditional model and left nothing.

You always have marginal people, however, most people need a model of reference.
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While models of reference can and should be reformed, they don’t negate the efficacy of different models, nor should they discourage diversity if it works for different people.

I agree that capitalism is toxic in many ways, but traditionalism in and of itself has core imbalances that promotes excesses and abuses which eat away at it from within. One of the biggest issues being people not even having a true understanding of what it even means to be “traditional”. Because even past societies that we drew these traditions from followed different traditions. Which and how do you pick and/or choose? Thus, even traditionalism itself it diverse.

But that shouldn’t stop people from being able to identify positives aspects of whatever traditions they follow, and taking those characteristics to build healthy models for themselves while leaving whatever doesn’t work.

But those choices will align or vary according to different personalities, partnerships, needs and dozens of other factors.
 
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