Is Chris Paul Even A Top 5 NBA Point Guard Anymore?

[Miggs]

Lowry played better than CP3.

And?

Guys hold single games way too Highly. If Jeff Green dropped 30 on Lebron and outplayed him, does Jeff Green become a better player than Lebron or did he have a better game?

Except its not a single game dyckhead...Kyles been balling for 2 years and just now getting recognition..

Single game

 

[Draje]

I mean you might actually have a point far as Wall goes,I think alot of people are just tried of seeing Chris Paul not go as far as he supposed to in the playoffs, so now they look for players who are better or on the verge of being better to put over him.

'Shrug'

I don't think any other PG, not named Magic, could have done much to change CP3's fate.

CP3 played amazingly against the Grizzlies but couldn't stop Z-Bo and Gasol from destroying Jordan after Blake went down.

He was injured against the Spurs and he went against a team with two top 5 players on it and one of them being one of the two best players in the NBA AND it came down to a couple of calls and bounces.

In his 3rd season in the league he embarrassed prime Dirk in the first round and then heavily outplayed prime Duncan before barely losing game 7 that would have sent him to the WCF. If his teammates hit 2 more shots that game and the Spurs miss 1 does that somehow change the entire complexion of his career because he would have reached the arbitrary WCF benchmark?

I dunno, I've seen CP3 play for my entire life and I've never seen him play badly like..."Lebron in the Miami Finals" where I can say that this loss was on him. I don't think CP3 should be hurt because he's playing in a stacked confrence. If Wall got to the ECF, is he more successful than Paul or did he just play in an overall easier confrence.

 

[Draje]

Except its not a single game dyckhead...Kyles been balling for 2 years and just now getting recognition..

Single game

And? I know Lowry's great and was underrated. That don't make him better than CP3.

 

[Goatpoacher]

does that somehow change the entire complexion of his career because he would have reached the arbitrary WCF benchmark?

At the coli, you are supposed to set arbitrary benchmarks for players you don't like. :JJ:

 

[Miggs]

And? I know Lowry's great and was underrated. That don't make him better than CP3.

Right NOW

HEs better than CP3

Hes leading a better team and his stats including metrics are better



HE BETTER !!

 

[Bledswole]

'Shrug'

I don't think any other PG, not named Magic, could have done much to change CP3's fate.

CP3 played amazingly against the Grizzlies but couldn't stop Z-Bo and Gasol from destroying Jordan after Blake went down.

He was injured against the Spurs and he went against a team with two top 5 players on it and one of them being one of the two best players in the NBA AND it came down to a couple of calls and bounces.

In his 3rd season in the league he embarrassed prime Dirk in the first round and then heavily outplayed prime Duncan before barely losing game 7 that would have sent him to the WCF. If his teammates hit 2 more shots that game and the Spurs miss 1 does that somehow change the entire complexion of his career because he would have reached the arbitrary WCF benchmark?

I dunno, I've seen CP3 play for my entire life and I've never seen him play badly like..."Lebron in the Miami Finals" where I can say that this loss was on him. I don't think CP3 should be hurt because he's playing in a stacked confrence. If Wall got to the ECF, is he more successful than Paul or did he just play in an overall easier confrence.

But last year he had Blake who had finished top 2,3 in MVP voting and himself labeled a top 5 player and still couldn't get past the 2nd round,mixed bag with me,he should have at least gotten past the second round by now

 

[Draje]

Right NOW

HEs better than CP3

Hes leading a better team and his stats including metrics are better



HE BETTER !!

What's stats are you looking at? They look about even to me.

18.1 (.588 TS) / 9.4 AST (2.1 TOV) / 4.6 REB / PER of 25.1

Vs.

20.5 (.571 TS) / 7.7 AST (2.2 TOV) / 4.7 REB / PER of 24.7

Seems pretty even but I dunno.

 

[Draje]

But last year he had Blake who had finished top 2,3 in MVP voting and himself labeled a top 5 player and still couldn't get past the 2nd round,mixed bag with me,he should have at least gotten past the second round by now

Let's be honest...

If CP3 is about even with Westbrook, Durant is probably 10x the player of Blake.

Blake is no Durant or Westbrook-rier player. Durant is a possible top 10 talent of all time and a GOAT-tier scorer.

 

[Bledswole]

Let's be honest...

If CP3 is about even with Westbrook, Durant is probably 10x the player of Blake.

Blake is no Durant or Westbrook-rier player. Durant is a possible top 10 talent of all time and a GOAT-tier scorer.

I mean to an extent your right but Clippers had role players to,no excuses last two years breh

 

[Draje]

I mean to an extent your right but Clippers had role players to,no excuses last two years breh

Eh...they had who really? Crawford was scoring 15 PPG on sub 40% shooting plus he's average to bad defensively. Reddikk is a great shooter but bad defensively. Barnes isn't really a starting caliber 3 in the league. He's more of a hustle-guy off the bench.

CP3 averaged almost 20-10 over last years playoff while being the main focus of the defense and typically being the best perimeter defender on his team.

 

[Bledswole]

Eh...they had who really? Crawford was scoring 15 PPG on sub 40% shooting plus he's average to bad defensively. Reddikk is a great shooter but bad defensively. Barnes isn't really a starting caliber 3 in the league. He's more of a hustle-guy off the bench.

CP3 averaged almost 20-10 over last years playoff while being the main focus of the defense and typically being the best perimeter defender on his team.

They also had DeAndre Jordan and they had Bledsoe and Nick Young a year before that

 

[Draje]

They also had DeAndre Jordan and they had Bledsoe and Nick Young a year before that

DeAndre Jordan isn't exactly a difference maker though. He's pretty much entirely dependent on getting the ball on an oop or put-backs plus he's a great shot blocker but thats about it.

The year before that was the Grizzlies when Griffin got injured and had to sit out despite CP3 playong amazingly.

The year before that, CP3 was injured against the Spurs and it was Greg Popavich going against Vinny del Negro

 

[Bledswole]

DeAndre Jordan isn't exactly a difference maker though. He's pretty much entirely dependent on getting the ball on an oop or put-backs plus he's a great shot blocker but thats about it.

The year before that was the Grizzlies when Griffin got injured and had to sit out despite CP3 playong amazingly.

The year before that, CP3 was injured against the Spurs and it was Greg Popavich going against Vinny del Negro

I mean as i said some of your arguments are legit,but that's the reason why I feel CP3 is gettin disrespected, there would be no question about it who the best PG in the league is if he were winning when it counted, but with him not doing that it leaves the door open for him to take criticism and have some put other players over him,as I been saying for years the only PG I truly feel is just a flat out better player than CP3 is Westbrook and a healthy Derrick Rose

 

[HurryUpAndBuy]

He dribbles too much

 

[TheSpook]

Same nikkas giving Paul excuses had them in the finals past 2 years. Funny how that works. Chris Paul fans are the worst in sports.