Is Climate Change Hopeless At This Point?

[Ozymandeas]

It’s no different than telling a smoker to stop if he wants to avoid cancer or someone that’s obese to live a healthier lifestyle to avoid heart disease. 9 times out if 10, the person doesn’t change. That’s us on a global scale. We’re accustomed to this lifestyle. And we can’t have it and avoid climate change. They said if we wanted to make a real dent in emissions, we’d have to live like we did during the pandemic every year going forward with less cars, flights, cruises, etc. When I read that I knew we were fukked because muthafukkas are definitely not doing that. It is what it is. Get ready

 

[Micky Mikey]

From the very start we were dealing with a tech our way out or die situation…

…the green push was never going to work. Hippies just seized the opportunity.

Lol we aren't going to simply tech our way out of this. We'll be forced to change our current economic model at some point. Climate change is just one facet of the underlying problem with how we run our civilization. Plastic pollution and biodiversity loss alone could totally crush humanity. Yes, tech solutions will be a vital component for working our way out of this mess but we'll eventually have no choice but to cut back on endless economic growth.
Its more accurate to say its a tech our way out plus move beyond capitalism or die situation.

In the end those green tree hugging hippies will get what they want. And all those who fought so hard to prevent big government action will be shocked when there is literally no other choice.

 

[Micky Mikey]

Nothing will be done. Bunch of reasons as to why..
But the main 2 are profit and because the people don't actually want a change that changes things in their personal lives. Even if they know this change is needed.


So for the short term next few decades..
You are just going to have to ride this out and deal with the nightmares that are waiting to be unleashed. You've been getting a sneak peak at what some of those nightmares are gonna be..


Long term.. like 60+years long term...That's what 3 gens. World will be a different place. Things will be "better" globally.

Where do you see global civilization in 60 years?

 

[intra vires]

Whatever the solutions are, you non-Great Lake having savages moving here is not one of them.

The courses of action are adaptation and mitigation, which was always the case because climate change has never been taken seriously enough to think we'd innovate our way to a true solution. Even now the craven centrists oppose the reconciliation bill because they, and their benefactors, are against combating climate change. They just don't have the courage to come out and say it because they still need the democrats to support them to stay in office - yes, even Manchin's bytch ass. It's hard to ask for support from the party when you're literally blocking the president/party leader's agenda.

If you want to get more global in your perspective we could talk about droughts and famines in the global south that will lead to wars and refugee crises. I think we all know how the global north will behave when climate refugees start looking for respite.... the Syrian Refugee Crisis was an omen of things to come.

 

[mastermind]

If you want to get more global in your perspective we could talk about droughts and famines in the global south that will lead to wars and refugee crises. I think we all know how the global north will behave when climate refugees start looking for respite.... the Syrian Refugee Crisis was an omen of things to come.

Facts

 

[Grand Conde]

It's crazy cause even China is trying to move to take it seriously and cacs don't give a shyt.

You mean Americans. European Union is the political entity taking Climate Change the most seriously.

 

[NZA]

little will be done and we will simply roll the cost of climate refugees and conflicts into the equation. there is nothing individuals can do. too many disagree on climate change being real or man-made for their to be the type of massive, coherent and sustained political action needed in a corrupt country like america.

 

[DEAD7]

Lol we aren't going to simply tech our way out of this. We'll be forced to change our current economic model at some point. Climate change is just one facet of the underlying problem with how we run our civilization. Plastic pollution and biodiversity loss alone could totally crush humanity. Yes, tech solutions will be a vital component for working our way out of this mess but we'll eventually have no choice but to cut back on endless economic growth.
Its more accurate to say its a tech our way out plus move beyond capitalism or die situation.

In the end those green tree hugging hippies will get what they want. And all those who fought so hard to prevent big government action will be shocked when there is literally no other choice.

If you say so…

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

hopeless depending on who you believe...

-folks who support politicians that shutdown domestic contributions to climate change that can be regulated, so to purchase from countries that contribute to climate change unregulated
-folks who refuse to acknowledge advancement in tech and energy options, for ideological reasons only
-folks who acknowledge the importance of climate change, not at the expense of other sectors

 

[gho3st]

It’s impossible to stop the avalanche at this point. Too many variables standing in the way.

 

[phcitywarrior]

Like a burrito, it’s a wrap.

Too many conflict of interests at the government, private sector and individual level, almost to the point that all these accords and conventions (Paris Accord, COP26, etc) seem nothing more than political puffery.

Heavy industry and meat production are two of the biggest sectors that produce CO2 emissions but there’s more emphasis on the consumer side on electrifying vehicles when in truth, IIRC you could electrify every in the world and that would put in a dent of less than 5-7% of all emissions annually. And the world is far away from coming close to that.

The real root issue with climate change is the level of human consumption. If you can’t check that seriously, then everything else is chatting breeze

 

[David_TheMan]

Climate change is a natural occurance.
Nothing we can or should do outside of just accepting our fate and trying to make our lives the best they can be.

 

[hashmander]

i don't plan on having kids so in all honesty i don't care. we're not good for this planet.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

IYes and no? I don't think it's already at a point where the it's for sure going to cause the extinction of the human race, but I do think it's past the tipping point in terms of being able to stop it from causing massive problems for generations to come.

Climate Change is legitimately the main thing making me question wanting to have children. I think people born in the 80's and 90's are maybe the last generation that won't have to spend at least half of their lives dealing with extreme conditions due to this problem.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Climate change is a natural occurance.
Nothing we can or should do outside of just accepting our fate and trying to make our lives the best they can be.

The idea that we aren't accelerating climate change at an alarming rate is just false. There's no scientific evidence to back this claim.

Yes, the climate will always change regardless of human action....but not like this. The myriad of problems we'll be dealing with over the next decades are because of us.

Also, it's really easy to say to just accept your fate and live your life as best as possible when you have the luxury of living somewhere that's less likely to be affected by it. There's are millions if not billions of human beings that will be suffering immensely over the coming years, and many of them could be in North America. Taking steps to lessen the problem is a cause worth pursuing.

Less bad is still better than more bad.