MalikX
Superstar
Drake will never be as big as Jay. He's popular but even Kanye and Eminem were bigger at their peaks. Lil Wayne also.
Eminem was bigger, for sure. No to Kanye and Wayne.
Is Drake on the same level as Jay Z?
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Eminem was bigger, for sure. No to Kanye and Wayne.
You didn't say either of these things. Actually, you said Jay was never big.
In 1998 Eminem hadn't released the SSLP yet.
No he didn't. IDAHIH was only certified at two times platinum and I think Flesh did over 500k the first week. So let's say 3 million to be generous.
Jay was triple platinum in 98 with one album in 2 months. 4 times plat by February.
He did 8 times plat in 18 months.
GRODT is 6x plat.
Cloud McFly
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DMX's biggest selling album: 6x platinum (7x platinum on two albums in 98)
Ja Rule's biggest selling album: 6x platinum
Nelly's biggest selling album: 9x platinum
50 Cent's biggest selling album: 12x platinum
Eminem's biggest selling album: 30x platinum
Jay-Z's biggest selling album: 5x platinum
He's clearly behind the other dudes
So how was he the "Drake" of his era?He wasn't the hottest rapper. Just consistent. Career longevity. Outlasting everybody else and putting out hot music for a long period of time but, the other artists at their peak were more popular than Jay-Z ever was. If anybody was "Drake" back then, it was Nelly or Ja Rule.
Not taking nothing away from X, as he was an incredible talent, but his biggest album went 5x Platinum just like Hov's biggest.
Also, Ja Rule's biggest album went 3x Platinum, and not 6x as you are saying.
Looking over the rest, it seems as though you are pulling the numbers out of thin air, as the only one you got right was Nelly's.
MalikX
Superstar
(32), and have been listening to rap since 1987.
You never said anything about being the absolute top artist, only that he was never big at all, which is obvious bullshyt, and anyone who really lived through it would know better to ever try to pass that off as fact.
As said before, Vanilla Ice was the top rap artist at one point too. Doesn't mean he should have been compared to cats like LL, Rakim, and Big Daddy Kane.
Because you're not making sense.
You're comparing Jay-Z to the biggest rapper out right now and saying the biggest rapper out right now isn't on his level, so that implies that Jay-Z was once bigger than Drake was and he wasn't. That's bullshyt. Back then 50 Cent, DMX, Em, Ja and Nelly were bigger than Jay. I was 14 in 2002. I remember it very well. Jay-Z was kinda in that J Cole lane where he had a core audience, sold his records and had hits but, he wasn't the biggest rapper out. The same era you trying to plug Jay-Z as the king of rap, Nelly was going diamond, Em was going triple diamond, X was in all the movies and Ja had all the middle school and high school girls singing his songs and was in a million remixes, which is eerily similar to the trance Drake has on girls and the clubs now, so I can't agree with you.
Cloud McFly
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Jay-Z was in J. Cole lane?
I've heard it all now. Not only are you making a bunch of clearly false claims with no way to back them up, you have the audacity to say this bs?
This rap shyt isn't for you
MalikX
Superstar
Pain Is Love sold 6 million worldwide
Pain Is Love
- Released: October 2, 2001
- Label: Murder Inc., Def Jam
- Format: CD, LP, cassette, digital download
Receipts?
White people were buying Eminem's records like bottled water
The Slim Shady LP
- Released: February 23, 1999[40]
- Label:Aftermath,Interscope,Web
- Format: CD, LP, cassette,digital
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- RIAA: 4× Platinum[44]
- ARIA: Platinum[45]
- BPI: 3× Platinum[46]
- IFPI: Platinum[47]
- IFPI SWI: Gold[48]
- MC: 2× Platinum[49]
- RMNZ: Platinum[50]
- Released: May 23, 2000[51]
- Label:Shady,Aftermath,Interscope,Goliath
- Format: CD, LP, cassette, digital
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- RIAA: Diamond[44]
- ARIA: 4× Platinum[45]
- BPI: 8× Platinum[46]
- BVMI: 2× Platinum[54]
- IFPI: 6× Platinum[55]
- IFPI SWI: 4× Platinum[48]
- MC: 8× Platinum[49]
- RMNZ: 5× Platinum[56]
- SNEP: 2× Platinum[57]
- Released: May 21, 2002[58]
- Label:Shady,Aftermath,Interscope,Goliath
- Format: CD, LP, cassette, digital
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- RIAA: Diamond
- ARIA: 9× Platinum[60]
- BPI: 7× Platinum[46]
- BVMI: 2× Platinum[54]
- IFPI: 5× Platinum[61]
- IFPI SWI: 3× Platinum[48]
- MC: Diamond[49]
- RMNZ: 9× Platinum[62]
- SNEP: 2× Platinum[63]
- Released: November 12, 2004[64]
- Label:Shady,Aftermath,Interscope,Goliath
- Format: CD, LP, cassette, digital
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MalikX
Superstar
Jay-Z was in J. Cole lane?
I've heard it all now. Not only are you making a bunch of clearly false claims with no way to back them up, you have the audacity to say this bs?
This rap shyt isn't for you
What's exactly wrong about it? Just because you too dumb to get the comparison isn't my fault.
J. Cole is a star but, he aint bigger than Kendrick or Drake.
Back then, Jay-Z was a star but, he wasn't bigger than Nelly or Ja or X or Em or 50 Cent. Definitely not 50 Cent. So where I am wrong here.
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Yeah I'd like to know about the 30x platinum thing. Those are thriller numbers.
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Cloud McFly
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Platinum in other countries take considerably less sells than the million you need in the United States.
MalikX
Superstar
I posted them. Go check Eminem's wiki page. Those are worldwide numbers. Here's it again.
The Marshall Mathers LP is the third studio album by American rapper Eminem. It was released on May 23, 2000. By May 2015, the album had sold over 11 million copies in the United States and more than 32 million copies worldwide.
The Marshall Mathers LP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
His combined worldwide albums and singles sales stand at more than 155 million
Eminem discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alot of black rappers were upset with Em because they felt his success was only due to him being white. If he was black, he'd barely be going platinum but, instead he was a cacing his way to 25 to 30 million sold an album
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nikka, hell no and you know he ain't but this was a troll thread 
MalikX
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I personally think X was bigger. I don't know why I thought And Then There Was X went 6x platinum but, you right, it was only certified 5x platinum.
I was right about every other artist. I was counting the worldwide sales. Keep up
You can sell less overseas and get certain certifications but, that has nothing to do with the total units sold. For example, Eminem sold 30 million records worldwide on Eminem Show and the Marshall Mathers LP. If they say you sold 30 million records worldwide, than you sold 30 million records. You can go platinum in Canada selling 80,000 records but, if you ask for total number units sold, they'll say it was only 80,000 records sold. They're not going to say 8 million. That wouldn't make sense. They'll say the nikka sold 80,000 records and went platinum in that country. When they say a nikka sold 8 million records worldwide, it's because he literally sold 8 million records worldwide. You confusing certifications with physical units sold.
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on a pop star level yea, he's like Eminem. but rapping and artistically he doesn't come close. Jay is more of an original. can't say the same for Drake.