Is Drake really losing favor from the public? He last three songs have more dislikes than likes.

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

Future IS 40 and nobody applies this logic to him

That's because Future is the culture, not someone riding it. Lingo, sauce, charisma, and influence through the hoods of America.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

I was referring to when Jay put out Black Album…

You skipped over 3 years and an entire album.

 

[RamsayBolton]

People saying this wasn't going to matter at all were kinda delusional to me. Coast-to-coast people are calling him a pedophile. His public image is trashed, he's gonna be clowned for a long time in the future. And so are his fans. Went from "you hear that new Drake?" in your circles to someone saying "what culture he steal from this time?" or calling him a pedophile.

He's the new Meek Mill, the butt of the joke. He'll still have a career but he is NOT going to have any respect. That's gonna trickle down to his fans too

 

[Solo_87]

Except Jay didn't come back stronger. He came back with Kingdom Come, which was not anywhere as good as The Black Album.

Yes, he should follow Jay's blueprint (no pun) and fake a retirement. Announce a last album and drop it. I think he should stay away from collabo albums and maybe even features.

Ether dropped December 2001

J dropped BP2 2002 ...was mid ....but features some of his highest charting hits Excuse Me Miss, Bonnie & Clyde

CIL w/B went #1 for some weeks early 2003

and then The Black Album dropped late 2003. Did great numbers. Was a critical and commercial success...

KC didn't come until 2006

 

[spliz]

And that album was shaky. He had to do the fake retirement thing to get people to buy in again. Drake needs to do something similar or introspective.

I think he should go back to his so far gone roots, that's what put him on in the 1st place. Tough guy Drake who sneak diss rappers and their girls has run it's course.

Yup. Jay did the fake retirement right when everyone was starting to say son was falling off and criticize his shyt more. Got right back in everyone's good graces.

 

[spliz]

Huh?

Ether dropped December 2001

J dropped BP2 2002 ...was mid ....but features some of his highest charting hits Excuse Me Miss, Bonnie & Clyde

CIL w/B went #1 for some weeks early 2003

and then The Black Album dropped late 2003. Did great numbers. Was a critical and commercial success...

KC didn't come until 2006

He didn't come back STRONGER. Anyone saying that clearly doesn't remember that time frame well. While Excuse Me Miss and 02 Bonnie and Clyde did well commercially. The album wasn't received as well. Especially coming off a high like BP1. Jay even re-released the album with half the songs cut from it and his LA LA LA single.

 

[Standing on business]

And that album was shaky. He had to do the fake retirement thing to get people to buy in again. Drake needs to do something similar or introspective.

I think he should go back to his so far gone roots, that's what put him on in the 1st place. Tough guy Drake who sneak diss rappers and their girls has run it's course.

Yall nikkas rewriting history, Ether definitely did its thing and shook up hiphop, but when BP2 dropped nobody cared anymore and it was back to normal. Bonnie & Clyde and Excuse me miss was getting play everywhere. BP2 was a double plat album. The commercial falloff didn’t happen until Kindom Come and by that time he had already signed Nas to Def Jam.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Yall nikkas rewriting history, Ether definitely did its thing and shook up hiphop, but when BP2 dropped nobody cared anymore and it was back to normal. Bonnie & Clyde and Excuse me miss was getting play everywhere

That’s not exactly what happened. It was “over” but Jay had already pivoted to those types of tracks compared to what he was doing beforehand. He threw more shots at Nas on BP2, as Nas threw shots at him as well on albums after that. There’s a reason people continue to use “Ether” as a verb still 23 years later instead of “Takeover”

 

[spliz]

Yall nikkas rewriting history, Ether definitely did its thing and shook up hiphop, but when BP2 dropped nobody cared anymore and it was back to normal. Bonnie & Clyde and Excuse me miss was getting play everywhere. BP2 was a double plat album. The commercial falloff didn’t happen until Kindom Come and by that time he had already signed Nas to Def Jam.

Ur the one rewriting history. And Jay never signed Nas.

 

[JustCKing]

Yall nikkas rewriting history, Ether definitely did its thing and shook up hiphop, but when BP2 dropped nobody cared anymore and it was back to normal. Bonnie & Clyde and Excuse me miss was getting play everywhere. BP2 was a double plat album. The commercial falloff didn’t happen until Kindom Come and by that time he had already signed Nas to Def Jam.

"Excuse Me Miss" and "Bonnie & Clyde" was Jay Z's most female friendly songs at the time. This was after one of the claims in "Ether" where Nas said "you only concerned with dissing women". He had a point because before BP2, Jay's songs definitely fell in line with "you only concerned with dissing women".

BP2 going double platinum is neither hiere or there. It was a double album. It only had to ship a mill to go double platinum. That was half of what the original Blueprint did.

 

[Deltron]

Yall nikkas rewriting history, Ether definitely did its thing and shook up hiphop, but when BP2 dropped nobody cared anymore and it was back to normal. Bonnie & Clyde and Excuse me miss was getting play everywhere. BP2 was a double plat album. The commercial falloff didn’t happen until Kindom Come and by that time he had already signed Nas to Def Jam.

lol yet, the title track of BP2 exists

 

[whatthatthangsmelllike]

Why is she in Venice

 

[Solo_87]

He didn't come back STRONGER. Anyone saying that clearly doesn't remember that time frame well. While Excuse Me Miss and 02 Bonnie and Clyde did well commercially. The album wasn't received as well. Especially coming off a high like BP1. Jay even re-released the album with half the songs cut from it and his LA LA LA single.

BP is considered a classic

But with BP2 and onward he was breaking new ground commercially

And The Black album, which was a great album and featured some of his best work, dropped the following yr ...2003

All depends on how you define "stronger"

 

[Standing on business]

lol yet, the title track of BP2 exists

That’s the best track from the whole beef but lets be foreal, the shyt wasn’t already considered over by then and that track never got a response.

 

[spliz]

We must have a different definition of stronger than

BP is considered a classic

But with BP2 and onward he was breaking new ground commercially

And The Black album, which featured some of his best work, dropped the following yr ...2003

He didn't come back stronger. He sold less with BP2 than BP1. He got a worse critical and street response. To where he re-released the album with a new single and half the songs. He also "retired" to get the public back on his side. Prior to that. Son was def seen as falling off. Or atleast heavily effected by the battle. Yall removing context to make shyt seem sweeter than it was. This is why we always need people who lived thru this type of shyt to speak the truth because history gets switched up like crazy.