Is FBA a Tariq Nasheed Cult?

Geordi

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Ty Daniels said:
You and I have had discourse before, and each time, you ask half-baked azz questions as "gotchas", without even bothering to "qualify" your questions beforehand.

Also you Move goalposts, and diverge from your "Talking Point" when PROVEN wrong.


This was your ORIGINAL Question




When proven wrong, instead of acknowledging you were wrong, you MOVE the Goal Post, SMH

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Ethnic Black Americans ARE A SPECIFIC LINEAGE, no matter how much "Pseudo Intellectual Hopscotch" you choose to play.


To answer your HALF-BAKED "Faux-Gotchas"...

1. "Most people that call themselves FBA would say their ancestors did not come from Africa."
ANSWER: This is false, there are SOME that deny having an origin in Africa, BUT even on here the most VOCAL FBA posters have ALL acknowledged an African origin via the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade.

We have had an ETHNOGENESIS on American Soil, thus making us "American" anyone denying this is retard.


2. "how do you define a FBA who is recently mixed with people from other countries?"
ANSWER: If a person has Partial "Ethnic Black American" ancestry then they have "Partial FBA/ADOS" ancestry, it ain't rocket science.


3. "Are Liberians FBA?"
ANSWER: Liberians are: 1. NOT AMERICAN, and 2. The ones with American Freedman Ancestry make up LESS THAN 5% of the TOTAL POPULATION. So the less than 5% have "ADOS/FBA/FREEDMEN/AA" ancestry, THE MAJORITY of the POPULATION DOES NOT HAVE "ADOS/FBA/FREEDMEN/AA" ancestry.


The BOTTOM Line, "ADOS/FBA/FREEDMEN/AA" is a specific ethnicity, just like ALL OTHER Black Ethnic Groups.

I hear ZERO people asking for other Black Ethnic groups to "Validate" and Justify why they are an Ethnic Group.

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even on here the most VOCAL FBA posters have ALL acknowledged an African origin via the Trans-Atlantic Slave trade.
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They do not acknowledge an African origin because their leader Tariq does not either. Its not just here but widespread though the internet. The whole point of creating FBA was to erase Africans and Caribbeans from black American culture and history.

Black Americans are a distinct ethnicity like you said, I'm only referring to FBAs which seem to have their own vague definition depending on who you talk to.
 
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FBA, ADOS AND WHATEVER ELSE nikkas is running around yelling is nothing but a bunch of nikkas like their leaders tariq and others isn’t doing anything in communities… its just something nikkas want to say they part of to act like doing something
 
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Geordi said:
They do not acknowledge an African origin because their leader Tariq does not either. Its not just here but widespread though the internet. The whole point of creating FBA was to erase Africans and Caribbeans from black American culture and history.

Black Americans are a distinct ethnicity like you said, I'm only referring to FBAs which seem to have their own vague definition depending on who you talk to.
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Tariq is not the "Leader Of FBA" he created/popularized the term.

Is Jesse Jackson the "Leader of African Americans"?

Is Flora Shaw the "Leader Of Nigerians", she created the name, is "She The Leader"? SMH.

See how stupid your "Logic" is.

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Anyone from anywhere in the world with a Black Phenotype can become an American Citizen, and a "Black American".

HOW IN THE HELL then do we Specifically define the SPECIFIC Black Americans with Ancestry from the FOUNDATION of America, if anybody can be a "Black American"?


All ETHNIC/Lineage Black Americans are FBA, whether they know/heard about Tariq or not.


I'm not even a "Tariq Follower" and the last thing I've watched from Tariq was IZM Radio, 6 Years ago.

I Heard about the Term FBA, HERE ON THIS SITE.

Because DAILY, people who claim to "not like Tariq", spend countless hours on here talking about him, SMH.


The Term "Foundational Black American" is an ACCURATE Term, you don't like it? TOO DAMN BAD.

Your OPINION on the Matter MAKES ZERO DIFFERENCE.

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kingofnyc said:
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why is this thread still going on?

People are acting fukking retarded and being completely disingenuous by calling FBA a cult or whatever

At the end of the day, it’s just simply a lineage nothing more nothing less
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Just another Tariq hate circlejerk. They get off on the bullshyt. MAD WEIRD.
 
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Art Barr said:
This.

fukk that richard bey daytime grocier rag tabloid bytch nikka.

Any nikkaz listening to dude a goofie.

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Ty Daniels said:
Tariq is not the "Leader Of FBA" he created/popularized the term.

Is Jesse Jackson the "Leader of African Americans"?

Is Flora Shaw the "Leader Of Nigerians", she created the name, is "She The Leader"? SMH

See how stupid your "Logic" is.

:childplease:



Anyone from anywhere in the world with a Black Phenotype can become an American Citizen, and a "Black American".

HOW IN THE HELL then do we Specifically define the SPECIFIC Black Americans with Ancestry from the FOUNDATION of America, if anybody can be a "Black American"?


All ETHNIC/Lineage Black Americans are FBA, whether they know/heard about Tariq or not.


I'm not even a "Tariq Follower" and the last thing I've watched from Tariq was IZM Radio, 6 Years ago.

I Heard about the Term FBA, HERE ON THIS SITE.

Because DAILY, people who claim to "not like Tariq", spend countless hours on here talking about him, SMH.


The Term "Foundational Black American" is an ACCURATE Term, you don't like it? TOO DAMN BAD.

You're OPINION on the Matter MAKES ZERO DIFFERENCE.

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Since you havent listened to him in 6 years, right now he's associated with conspiracy theories, grifting, maga, pro ice, xenophobia etc. FBA is like the online black version of the Proud Boys; Foundational white Americans? Tariq is popular here because he has many fans repeating his words whenever immigrants comes up or its a political thread. Nobody wants to be DAFA:francis:

The thread title is asking if FBA is a Traiq Nasheed cult so the perception of this lineage name is not what you think it is.

Its 2026 so I gotta call people whatever they want FBA/black/she/him/they/them...
 
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Ty Daniels said:
Ethnic Black Americans (specifically African Americans) are
considered a distinct, specific lineage, primarily representing the descendants of enslaved Africans forcibly brought to the U.S. between 1501 and 1867. This group possesses a unique, largely West/Central African ancestry blended with European and Native American contributions.
Key details regarding the lineage of Black Americans include:
  • Origin: The majority of Black Americans trace their roots to roughly 456,600 Africans brought to the U.S. during the transatlantic slave trade.
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what about those that were moved around the americas in particular sold into the plantations in the caribbean?

what about those that escaped to canada?

Ty Daniels said:
  • Distinct Identity: While "Black" is a racial category, "African American" in this context refers to a specific ethnic group with shared ancestry, history, and cultural development in the U.S..
  • Genetic Admixture: Research shows this population is highly admixed, generally possessing West African, European, and often Native American (e.g., in Black Seminole groups) genetic, markers.
  • Distinction from Immigrants: The lineage is distinct from Black immigrants who moved to the U.S. from Africa, the Caribbean,
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nope. because slaves moved around within the americas.

Ty Daniels said:
  • or other regions in the 20th or 21st centuries.
This shared history creates a distinct genealogical and cultural lineage separate from other populations in the African Diaspora.


Even Google's AI search/overview knows better.

I don't understand why ANYONE is in here trying to deny the REALITY that Ethnic Black Americans (AKA ADOS/FBA/Freedmen/AA) are a specific lineage.

Arguing against it is RETARDED

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@Geordi is right.

"The Intra-American Slave Trade Database is a companion to Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, which also appears on the Slave Voyages website. Whereas the Transatlantic Database documents voyages that carried enslaved people from Africa to the Americas, the Intra-American Slave Trade Database records additional voyages that enslaved people endured within the Americas (e.g. from Jamaica to Cartagena, or from Barbados to South Carolina). This addition illustrates the ubiquity of slavery throughout the Americas, with voyages carrying captives as far north as Massachusetts and even Newfoundland, or as far south as Chile and Argentina."

 
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