Is Frank Ntlikina A Elite Defense Player

Is he yes or no?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 68.8%
  • No

    Votes: 10 31.3%

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seemorecizzy

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So one person said he hopes he can become the Giannis of PG in terms of development, and you take that as him saying he's definitely going to be Giannis.



nikka please, you spent about 300 posts telling everyone Melo was still a star, fukk outta here, you and @Mr. Jack Napier are the Malone and Stockton of defending Melo, only one on his dikk is you and your refusal to face facts.
melo "was" a star
hes not anymore.
tends to happen when you get older
i'm still a melo fan

again, what does dis have to do with frank being a elite defender or not lmao
u nikkas weirdos
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
melo "was" a star
hes not anymore.
tends to happen when you get older
i'm still a melo fan

again, what does dis have to do with frank being a elite defender or not lmao
u nikkas weirdos
coli came to their senses:ehh:

melo is a star and should only be compared to other stars:yeshrug:



We all know why Jack Napier made this thread, we can see his avi, you're playing ignorant and it's on some Republican tea party shyt acting like we don't know why Trump tweets about certain demographics and not others.
 

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Philly. Fucc a Eagle. I mean dat.
So one person said he hopes he can become the Giannis of PG in terms of development, and you take that as him saying he's definitely going to be Giannis.



nikka please, you spent about 300 posts telling everyone Melo was still a star, fukk outta here, you and @Mr. Jack Napier are the Malone and Stockton of defending Melo, only one on his dikk is you and your refusal to face facts.
:dead:
 

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frank isnt elite at anything at the moment. he has shown flashes on the defense end. the potential is there.
He’s elite all his Synergy numbers point towards it, number one P&R defender in the league, has had games with up to 6 steals. Our defense is 5.3 points worse per 100 possessions when he’s off the floor.

Frank is up there with Dejounte Murray, Kris Dunn, Jrue Holiday, Ricky Rubio, Chris Paul as a defensive PG.

The only thing hurting him on that end is his frail physique which leads to lack of physicality and sometimes he gets into foul trouble.
 

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Frank has the best Defensive Net rating on the knicks (104.5) of players getting significant minutes on a team that has a defensive net rating of 108.5; that 4 point improvement per hundred possessions is significant for the stat heads out there.

Statistically there isn't a player in the league guarding the pick and roll ball handler better. That's to say, Frank guarding the ball handler in pick and rolls gives up less points per play than anyone else in the league. It's not a fluke stat either, the rest of the high ranked players are all known for playing quality defense
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Also
Ntilikina has held the following scoreless:
John Wall (14 possessions)
Jeff Teague (11 possessions)
Tyler Johnson (12 possessions)
D’Angelo Russell (25 possessions)
Dennis Smith Jr. (15 possessions)
Chris Paul (20 possessions)
Lonzo Ball, Tony Parker and Jrue Holiday scored just two points in their Ntilikina duels — each facing him for at least 25 possessions.

I believe that originates from the Knicks Wall crew or at least that's where I first saw tracking of player efficiency while Frank specifically guards them.


Anyway, you take this all together and add that his impact so far has been limited by a lack of offensive development and somewhat light minutes (21 mpg about) and I think he's great to elite right now. But his impact will be muted until he can stay out there longer and be a 30 minutes a night difference maker on that end. You'll feel his impact more that way.
 

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We all know why Jack Napier made this thread, we can see his avi, you're playing ignorant and it's on some Republican tea party shyt acting like we don't know why Trump tweets about certain demographics and not others.
first of all, i posted that 14 months ago
second of all, my point still stands.
melo was the number option on a team, draymond green is 4th
they have different roles and responsbilities

lets see how a team with a prime draymond green as their best player does in the standings lmao
 

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He’s elite all his Synergy numbers point towards it, number one P&R defender in the league, has had games with up to 6 steals. Our defense is 5.3 points worse per 100 possessions when he’s off the floor.

Frank is up there with Dejounte Murray, Kris Dunn, Jrue Holiday, Ricky Rubio, Chris Paul as a defensive PG.

The only thing hurting him on that end is his frail physique which leads to lack of physicality and sometimes he gets into foul trouble.
elite defender isnt just restricted to pick and role defense man lol
okay hes solid on the pick and roll by nerd stats, he is not an elite OVERALL defender yet
which is what the thread is asking
he has the potential
yall overate every little thing he does lol
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
first of all, i posted that 14 months ago
second of all, my point still stands.
melo was the number option on a team, draymond green is 4th
they have different roles and responsbilities

lets see how a team with a prime draymond green as their best player does in the standings lmao

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"That was 14 months ago....but let me still argue that he's better"


:camby:

The Thunder are better when Melo is off the floor, your arguments are stupid.
 

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"That was 14 months ago....but let me still argue that he's better"


:camby:

The Thunder are better when Melo is off the floor, your arguments are stupid.
you said i have 300 posts defending melo or some shyt but had to go back 14 to months to find a post i made that was valid at the time lol:mjlol:
melo is not a number 1 option on his team anymore,he is not a star. compare him and draymond now if you want, 14 months ago the argument was retarded :mjlol:
you"re trying too hard bro lol
 
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