Forced Migration....yes.
Is Gentrification a Human-Rights Violation?
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Not really..
People who get pushed out of these major cities, better have a damn plan tho.
Only thing waiting for them out in those rural areas and abandoned suburbs is hardcore drugs
Most people who are pushed out are low-income and mainly uneducated on economic sustainability on a community level.
If a person or a family has lived and rented in an area long enough to be truly upset at the identity of the neighborhood changing it's their own fault for not eventually becoming financially stable enough to buy a house in the same neighborhood, which in that case the gentrification would only benefit them. If they were able to afford the rent for so long then with a little discipline they could've easily put the money aside for a down payment on that house or a house in the area. If they had no interest in buying and the gentrification process forces them out of the neighborhood then that is unfortunate, but I wouldn't say it's a human rights violation.
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They had plenty of time to learn
Hell I'm seeing this shyt happen up close in pittsburgh. Folks in Eastlib had plenty of time
Camile.Bidan
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I lived in NorCal for 33 years (my entire life).
I remember how hunters point used to be. I am not player hater, and I respect the brothas out there who had a fleet of feet hittn the concrete out there on the track. However...
I had a client right there hunters point.... They have turned that into one of the nicest areas in the city now. A 900sqft condo on HUNTERs point, cost about 1.5 million.
San Francisco used to be a straight up disgusting city. It has changed so much now for the better. I walked from hunters point to height and ashbury recently. It's amazing how nice it has become. I would have never imagined living in that city. Now, I might.
Same thing with the East Bay.
Say what you want about gentrification, but the positive externalities are real and tangible. I took my team down for a walk from hunters point to the Giants stadium. i told my staff and seniors about how hunters point used to be, none of them believed me.
I remember how hunters point used to be. I am not player hater, and I respect the brothas out there who had a fleet of feet hittn the concrete out there on the track. However...
I had a client right there hunters point.... They have turned that into one of the nicest areas in the city now. A 900sqft condo on HUNTERs point, cost about 1.5 million.
San Francisco used to be a straight up disgusting city. It has changed so much now for the better. I walked from hunters point to height and ashbury recently. It's amazing how nice it has become. I would have never imagined living in that city. Now, I might.
Same thing with the East Bay.
Say what you want about gentrification, but the positive externalities are real and tangible. I took my team down for a walk from hunters point to the Giants stadium. i told my staff and seniors about how hunters point used to be, none of them believed me.
Which is why the thread should be titled "Is capitalism a human rights violation"
That's actually an excellent question, you should start the thread
They had plenty of time to learn
Hell I'm seeing this shyt happen up close in pittsburgh. Folks in Eastlib had plenty of time
Plenty of time? Most people aren't leaders so they follow. Especially since...
1.Most low-income are illiterate or have a middle school level education.
2. People haven't had leaders in their community for years because they were pushed out by outside democrat leaders who claim to be for them in area but get profit from these changes.
3. Volunteer Community organizers can't get enough funds to keep the activities/events going.
4. Gangs scare them from going outside
5. The youth and elders don't connect
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88m3
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New laws prevent landlords from pressuring tenants out
Under a new rule, tenants will have protection against landlords who want them to vacate their rent-regulated units with buy outs.
By Associated Press
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Photo: Buck Ennis
Landlords will have a harder time pushing rent-regulated tenants out of their units.
New York City is reining in landlords seeking to buy tenants out of rent-regulated apartments, a practice that has come under scrutiny in a roaring real-estate market.
Saying that residents of the city's 1.3 million rent-restricted apartments are being pressured to move out, Mayor Bill de Blasio signed legislation Thursday barring repeated buyout offers within six months if tenants don't want them. Other provisions would require reminders that tenants can refuse or consult lawyers.
“We won’t let tenants be intimidated and forced out of their homes. These new laws protect tenants from harassment and aggressive buyout schemes, and simultaneously help the City keep neighborhoods affordable," said Mr. de Blasio in a statement. "We have a strong partnership with the City Council standing up for tenants, and we thank the sponsors of these laws for helping combat these unscrupulous practices.”
He and other proponents say the measures will help keep residents from being browbeaten out of their homes by landlords and professional "tenant relocators" eager to charge more. But some real estate industry experts say the restrictions unduly curb communications with tenants.
Under state laws, vacant rent-stabilized apartments often can be renovated, deregulated and re-rented at triple the price or more—$5,200 a month instead of $1,700 for a Manhattan two-bedroom, for example. Citywide, about 266,000 apartments have been deregulated since 1994.
Tenant harassment complaints in city Housing Court have nearly doubled since 2011, officials have said. At a City Council hearing this spring, tenants and their advocates described residents getting knocks on their doors, fielding multiple calls per week and being accosted on the street with unwanted buyout offers. Some said that they'd been threatened with lawsuits or jail if they refused and that relocation specialists had approached tenants' children.
"Rent-regulated tenants routinely face harassment," and it's especially troubling when the city is striving to preserve affordable housing, said Brandon Kielbasa of the Cooper Square Committee, a tenant advocacy group. He sees the new measures as needed protection.
But real estate interests have noted that buyout offers—often totaling five or more figures—can be welcome.
Some tenants solicit them. Others who initially decline reconsider as their circumstances change or the offer increases, says landlords' lawyer Sherwin Belkin. He says he won't force the issue if a tenant says no, but he inquires again in a few months or weeks if he believes they may entertain different terms, or he might send a note inviting them to call if they change their minds.
The six-month blackout on reapproaching uninterested tenants "prohibits what can be purely benign, non-threatening, non-intimidating—what should be protected free speech," Mr. Belkin said, noting that existing laws already prohibit tenant harassment. A 2014 law doubled the maximum penalty to $10,000.
Meanwhile, a new city and state anti-tenant-harassment task force logged its first criminal case in June, when a Brooklyn landlord was accused of destroying walls and illegally turning off heat to try to make tenants miserable enough to move.
The new measures are set to take effect three months after being signed
New laws prevent landlords from pressuring tenants out
not enough
Under a new rule, tenants will have protection against landlords who want them to vacate their rent-regulated units with buy outs.
By Associated Press
1 Comment CommentsEmail Print
Photo: Buck Ennis
Landlords will have a harder time pushing rent-regulated tenants out of their units.
New York City is reining in landlords seeking to buy tenants out of rent-regulated apartments, a practice that has come under scrutiny in a roaring real-estate market.
Saying that residents of the city's 1.3 million rent-restricted apartments are being pressured to move out, Mayor Bill de Blasio signed legislation Thursday barring repeated buyout offers within six months if tenants don't want them. Other provisions would require reminders that tenants can refuse or consult lawyers.
“We won’t let tenants be intimidated and forced out of their homes. These new laws protect tenants from harassment and aggressive buyout schemes, and simultaneously help the City keep neighborhoods affordable," said Mr. de Blasio in a statement. "We have a strong partnership with the City Council standing up for tenants, and we thank the sponsors of these laws for helping combat these unscrupulous practices.”
He and other proponents say the measures will help keep residents from being browbeaten out of their homes by landlords and professional "tenant relocators" eager to charge more. But some real estate industry experts say the restrictions unduly curb communications with tenants.
Under state laws, vacant rent-stabilized apartments often can be renovated, deregulated and re-rented at triple the price or more—$5,200 a month instead of $1,700 for a Manhattan two-bedroom, for example. Citywide, about 266,000 apartments have been deregulated since 1994.
Tenant harassment complaints in city Housing Court have nearly doubled since 2011, officials have said. At a City Council hearing this spring, tenants and their advocates described residents getting knocks on their doors, fielding multiple calls per week and being accosted on the street with unwanted buyout offers. Some said that they'd been threatened with lawsuits or jail if they refused and that relocation specialists had approached tenants' children.
"Rent-regulated tenants routinely face harassment," and it's especially troubling when the city is striving to preserve affordable housing, said Brandon Kielbasa of the Cooper Square Committee, a tenant advocacy group. He sees the new measures as needed protection.
But real estate interests have noted that buyout offers—often totaling five or more figures—can be welcome.
Some tenants solicit them. Others who initially decline reconsider as their circumstances change or the offer increases, says landlords' lawyer Sherwin Belkin. He says he won't force the issue if a tenant says no, but he inquires again in a few months or weeks if he believes they may entertain different terms, or he might send a note inviting them to call if they change their minds.
The six-month blackout on reapproaching uninterested tenants "prohibits what can be purely benign, non-threatening, non-intimidating—what should be protected free speech," Mr. Belkin said, noting that existing laws already prohibit tenant harassment. A 2014 law doubled the maximum penalty to $10,000.
Meanwhile, a new city and state anti-tenant-harassment task force logged its first criminal case in June, when a Brooklyn landlord was accused of destroying walls and illegally turning off heat to try to make tenants miserable enough to move.
The new measures are set to take effect three months after being signed
New laws prevent landlords from pressuring tenants out
not enough
Purposely confound an economic phenomenon to a human rights issue, brehs.
Being able to live in an expensive city is in no way comparable to shyt like freedom of speech or the right to a fair trial. This is hyperbolic to the point of self-satire
Being able to live in an expensive city is in no way comparable to shyt like freedom of speech or the right to a fair trial. This is hyperbolic to the point of self-satire
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Purposely confound an economic phenomenon to a human rights issue, brehs.
Being able to live in an expensive city is in no way comparable to shyt like freedom of speech or the right to a fair trial. This is hyperbolic to the point of self-satire
why is it an expensive city? is it within reason?
the economics of this country is forcing people into poverty.
Which city? NYC & SF are expensive for a few reasons but the two biggest are the kinds of industries they are home to combined with geographic constraints. Charlotte has a strong banking sector (BoA and Wells Fargo are HQ'd here) and doesn't have those problems.
And the reason more and more people are slipping into poverty is due to a lack of opportunity and the shock of having to compete globally.