Is god real ?

[Black_Panther_JS]

probably not
and if he is... he's not how you think he is

that whole bible shyt is

humans wrote the bible, so i don't even see why people find it credible

 

[Nomadum]

same thing tbh

Yes and No.

explain why you feel it's the same thing breh

 

[Nomadum]

probably not
and if he is... he's not how you think he is

that whole bible shyt is

humans wrote the bible, so i don't even see why people find it credible

its all psychological. although institutional religion is a very restrictive mind-set, it does serve some positive.

I agree that the Bible is a little off, but so is every major mainstream Holy book out.

The books that's best to read and learn from (In my humbled opinion) are those centered around spirituality and exploration of the unknown (Occult and Esoteric books). because you'll learn that although we are all seeing and viewing the same Creator/Creative forces, our own cultural upbringing and personal experiences help "taint" our view on this force. so we end up seeing different cultures viewing it in different ways.

Interesting side note: back before Man became international/global (in the sense that Tribes aren't a "thing" no more), we all views nature and the happenings in Nature as different Gods and Goddesses. alot of African Tribes had a system of multiple deities responsible for everything from the Rain to Drought.

 

[mortuus est]

Yes and No.

explain why you feel it's the same thing breh

because my brain tells me to do good things..........and bad things

 

[Nomadum]

because my brain tells me to do good things..........and bad things

Instead of trying to be vague, express your thoughts in full breh.

I like discussion about topics like this, but you not giving me anything to build on with you.

 

[mortuus est]

Instead of trying to be vague, express your thoughts in full breh.

I like discussion about topics like this, but you not giving me anything to build on with you.

i think you already know where im going with this

since the beginning of time man has come up with his own conclusions on how things are

im not religious , i do believe in a higher power, i believe everything is in our heads , so the god/devil , good conscience/bad conscience is a thing

op can be his own god if he wants, its not hard

 

[Nomadum]

i think you already know where im going with this

since the beginning of time man has come up with his own conclusions on how things are

im not religious , i do believe in a higher power, i believe everything is in our heads , so the god/devil , good conscience/bad conscience is a thing

op can be his own god if he wants, its not hard

How can OP be his own God?
Can he create Stars to sustain life? can he crate entire planets? can he create galaxies and universes?

Can OP be his own path-blazer in the sense he controls his own life? yes, to some extent and degree. but we as living beings, utilizing the same form of consciousness and subconsciousness all effect each other. sometimes in very subtle ways that's not perceivable and then sometimes in major ways thats easy to notice and realize.

The whole God/Devil is in our heads point you made is valid to a certain degree. again, we as humans love and almost have an innate need to personify forces outside of our realm of understanding.

 

[mortuus est]

How can OP be his own God?
Can he create Stars to sustain life? can he crate entire planets? can he create galaxies and universes?

Can OP be his own path-blazer in the sense he controls his own life? yes, to some extent and degree. but we as living beings, utilizing the same form of consciousness and subconsciousness all effect each other. sometimes in very subtle ways that's not perceivable and then sometimes in major ways thats easy to notice and realize.

The whole God/Devil is in our heads point you made is valid to a certain degree. again, we as humans love and almost have an innate need to personify forces outside of our realm of understanding.

one would hope he wouldnt waste a life time trying to create planets and stars. not in that sense, he wakes himself up in the morning, thats all he needs

to someone else he can be a god, most kids should worship some of their mothers and fathers but hey

yeah humans like personify forces, mad how a person can control a heap of people with what they believe in as the truth

 

[hayesc0]

Maybe one day your same God will visit the other side of his world and see these people through.

This is the type of stuff that makes me question if god exist or not.

 

[Nomadum]

one would hope he wouldnt waste a life time trying to create planets and stars. not in that sense, he wakes himself up in the morning, thats all he needs

to someone else he can be a god, most kids should worship some of their mothers and fathers but hey

yeah humans like personify forces, mad how a person can control a heap of people with what they believe in as the truth

But we don't wake ourselves up in the sense you're speaking of. Our internal body mechanism which was created by the Creative force that is responsible for creating our reality, programmed our bodies to function that way. similar to how to do not consciously make our lungs expand (inhale) and deflate (exhale). we do not consciously blink (in the sense we normal just blink on instinct). we do not consciously make our Hearts take in deoxygenated blood and pump out oxygenated blood.

although we have some governance of our own bodies and lives, we are no where near the capacity (yet) to be considered Gods (imho).

I do not think Man should worship man, not even one's parents. One can admire and be influenced by humans, but one should never worship a human. that's like if you created an A.I. and then that A.I. created A.I., the subsequent A.I. creations which stims from your first A.I. shouldn't worship it's A.I. creator because in actuality You would be the God for both the A.I. your first created and you'd be the God for the A.I. that was created by your first A.I. (if that makes sense).

and it's easy to control us. Look how effective the news is. look how effective advertisement is. Fear is a very very powerful mechanism that can allow for control.

 

[Nomadum]

Maybe one day your same God will visit the other side of his world and see these people through.

In semi-defense of @Out2TheOld it has been documented studies proving the effects of Prayer. there are philosophical studies dealing with the power of Belief and Prayer. I'll touch upon it if need be but to give a short run down, Belief can cause you to change in psychological ways and even physical. prime example, a person with multiple personality disorder can actually change their physiological chemistry and this is all based upon Belief. so if I have MPD and my 2nd personality is allergic to shell fish while my "main" personality isn't, if I have an episode in which I am on my "2nd personality" then I could very well die if exposed to shell fish while if I'm in my "Main personality" I'll be ok.

Its difficult to debating the belief of a God when you see pictures of children like this, some people take the easy route out and claim it's based on free-will.

 

[mortuus est]

But we don't wake ourselves up in the sense you're speaking of. Our internal body mechanism which was created by the Creative force that is responsible for creating our reality, programmed our bodies to function that way. similar to how to do not consciously make our lungs expand (inhale) and deflate (exhale). we do not consciously blink (in the sense we normal just blink on instinct). we do not consciously make our Hearts take in deoxygenated blood and pump out oxygenated blood.

although we have some governance of our own bodies and lives, we are no where near the capacity (yet) to be considered Gods (imho).

I do not think Man should worship man, not even one's parents. One can admire and be influenced by humans, but one should never worship a human. that's like if you created an A.I. and then that A.I. created A.I., the subsequent A.I. creations which stims from your first A.I. shouldn't worship it's A.I. creator because in actuality You would be the God for both the A.I. your first created and you'd be the God for the A.I. that was created by your first A.I. (if that makes sense).

and it's easy to control us. Look how effective the news is. look how effective advertisement is. Fear is a very very powerful mechanism that can allow for control.

ok breh too deep too deep

why cany you worship a parent? if loads of people already worship divine energy with a blind eye and hardly any understanding? or should i say overstanding

fear can only linger within weaken minds, eat healthy brehs

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

I think what he was asking was is there a real God in an objective not a subjective sense.

what you're saying is in subjective sense meaning it's all relevant and reliant upon the person own belief system and understanding of Theology and/or God.

OP is asking if it came down to it, is there seriously 1 being in the Heavens responsible for all the shyt we see.

In that case I don't believe there is a God

 

[Nomadum]

ok breh too deep too deep

why cany you worship a parent? if loads of people already worship divine energy with a blind eye and hardly any understanding? or should i say overstanding

fear can only linger within weaken minds, eat healthy brehs

Lol my fault breh, I just really dig talking about God and Theology. if I run off into subjects too heavy my mistake breh.

and the reason why I don't think we should worship our parents is because at the end of the day, even though Your Mother and Father gave you life, you're worshipping the creation (Your Parents) and not the Creator (The being who made your parents). We as humans are easily flawed. we have our own ways of understanding and viewing things. we can and are greatly influenced by own upbringing and parents but that's not a reason to make your parents the God/Gods in the sky. I hope when I have kids that I can influence them to be positive people, but I don't ever want them thinking I'm above fault or flaw because that creates a dangerous psychological environment for the child as they grow.

I also agree with you, I do not think we should ever praise or worship anything blindly or with poor understanding. BUT, it does have some positive effects sometimes. like a street nikka who is a complete savage having a life altering experience and then beginning to blindly follow Yahweh or Allah or whatever, and actually becomes a less hostile/violent person. that's a positive but it's also a negative (if you follow me).

the whole Understanding/Overstanding thing is personal preference. a Rasta broke it down to me one day and said they actually have a numerology system similar to the NGE. they(The Rasta Breh explained to me) place 0 (Cipher) above 1 (Knowledge) where as NGE places 1 (Knowledge) above all and places 0 (Cipher) at the base. he also explained to me that the Rastas like to use "Understanding" because you get to the root of the issue/topic in question and can get a clear view of how it spreads out and how it grows (effecting other things). but the NGE will say it's best to OVERstand something, be above it and can look down to see how it got to where it is now. they both they same (Understand and Overstanding).

and Fear lingers in all minds breh, the Brave will tell you they fear defeat the Weak will tell you they fear being dictated, defeated or control. Fear is a primal instinct which helps humans survive. the whole "Fight or Flight" thing. infact, there are parasites which can completely shut down fear centers in animals (including humans) making these animals (and humans) more prone to dangerous activity. Example,

There is a parasite which cause insects and mice to actually go seeking predators. by doing this, the parasite cause it's host to be eaten by the predatory animal, the predatory animal then infects more prey by it's droppings and such. in essence causing a cycle.

Some research has shown that thrill seekers or those that are addicted to adrenaline may actually have a mental disorder which shuts down or "mutes" their fear centers causing them to do reckless things.​

 

[Nomadum]

In that case I don't believe there is a God

I can respect that, I don't go around trying to preach the belief in a God or Creator. I personally know beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is shyt bigger than me and this world. but my experiences are subjective and I could very well be wrong. but ultimately whatever your belief is, rather you think there is or isn't a God, as long as it helps you become a better individual then go for it breh.