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How do we pay for the land if we can't use US currency?
Also do you have a farm
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Is Group Economics Enough?
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How do we pay for the land if we can't use US currency?
Also do you have a farm
?Build an emergency fund of at least 6 months.Let's say they're out of debt, what's the next step
Invest 15% of your income into some type of retirement account (this is up for debate some people don't care for retirement accounts)
Build a portfolio. A combination of Mutual Funds and some individual stocks if you like
How do we pay for the land if we can't use US currency?
Also do you have a farm
use what we're using now to survive until we can do better. this is a process, not an overnight one, and definitely not a generational solution. gonna take time.
no, i don't have one but my paternal grandfather had one. unfortunately the family moved to the cities and let it go.
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That's for you personal financial security. The thread is about creating an economic base for the community.
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Do you have an urban garden? Been thinking bout making one myself.
Did you just call Oprah Gail Winfrey, a woman at this stage in life who is worth 2.9 Billion, a glorified employee? Not. Sure. If serious. :notsureifserious:
Anyway to answer the question is group economics THE answer to the African America plight and struggle, i'd say no it's not nor will it ever be. That's because when you discuss the struggle and plight of blacks in America you are referring to overcoming the system of white supremacy, something which has nothing to do with what black folks do and everything to do with what white folks do.
Now do i think group economics would be beneficial to the blk community, absolutely. Now how you gonna get there? Blk folks have shown an unwillingness and/or inability to develop the continuous pro-blk mindset it would take to create such national/global group economics. In truth we've been partially let down by our ancestors since the civil rights era. They sat around begging white ppl to view us on equal footing and to make policies to reflect that but neglected in making sure we got our share of the vast resources of this country that we were, and even now are, entitled too. So now we are an integrated ppl who don't control anything and we are in minority numbers. It's interesting to me how ppl talk about the Jews without mentioning the biggest factor in their success. They have even less numbers as a percentage of population in the U.S. than blk ppl, but the difference is Jews(and gays too since i see their struggle always trying to be compared to us) can blend in. You can't a day in your life hide the fact that you are blk and that makes a huge difference for ppl who want to key in on you and keep you powerless.
no, my mother had one in the hood up north with Puerto Rican neighbors. folks looked out for each other and watered and weeded each others plots. it was tight. urban gardening is a piff idea. i see stories in the ny times from time to time. i went to north carolina farm country this past summer and recently down to south miami dade county and was flabbergasted and wished i had that land and farming knowledge.
Oprah can't disappear cause she'd start loosing money.
All the money she made is:
1. from her talk show via advertisers
2. a magazine that only thrives when she's on the cover
3. a network on cable that is hemorrhaging money at an alarming rate trying to find successful programming
Is she rich? Absolutely.
But watch what'll happen if Oprah truly wanted to take shyt all the way left.
She'd loose advertisers. She'd lose access to cable networks and markets. She'd lose the social capital she's gained.
Oprah is an entertainer. She has money, but she's nothing but an entertainer.
If her feet don't shuffle, then she doesn't eat.
You can't trust people like her who ultimately still rely on people to sign off on their work just so she can cash a cheque.
Oprah is not as "independent" as you make her out to be.
if her money was really moving like she claims it does, she'd be making way more moves than she does.
Entertainers provide no value besides shaping social perceptions. They do nothing to affect infrastructure.
Oprah doesn't build roads or sell a product that makes her an asset. She doesn't even have kids.
What generational structure is she working to build?
Nothing.
Oprah has nothing to offer anyone besides as a social stop-gap in-between commercials with white pseudo-liberals and conservative housewives looking for leisure.
You get no argument from me on that point, she's not going hard to really help her own people here in this country or those that will come after her...however she is as independent as i was making her out to be. As independent as any billionaire who can choose what she WANTS to be and far from a "glorified employee" as you tried to characterize her. Maybe you don't like her because she's not a super pro-black militant woman but let's not get crazy to the point of being intellectually dishonest.
She's an employee man. She's still taking orders out here.
cause honestly, the O network isn't some heavy hitter like that. Its struggling and she's lost a lot of money trying to keep it afloat.
Plus, once oprah retires whats her legacy?
She's too invested in her own brand. Thats the problem and doesn't help much of anything or anyone.
real talk
cacs know the majority of her wealth will go back into their hands once she dies.The individuals of the community have to be stable before they can invest. It's still the same plan but with a much larger budget and fancy new terms like surplus, deficits and contingencies.
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It's not the same plan, not even close. You can do everything you said in that post and still not practice group economics and can ignore everything in that post and still practice group economics.
For example let's say I do everything you say. I have an emergent fund, retirement account and investments, but the bank my money is in, the brokerage account I have my retirement with, and the investment group I have my mutual fund with are all white owned. Am I practicing group economics?
And if I have none of those things but I spend my money with black people exclusively, am I practicing group economics?
Group economics won't solve all of our problems but it will solve a lot of them
yeah,
we do tend to forget about the knowledge aspect...
for example... with group economics a few kids from my hood might be a little better off, might not get robbed once, maybe have better materials for school.
with knowledge 100% of them lil nikkas make it No Matter What...... They will black excellence their way through.
They might even grow up and not use the word nikka all the time
