Is intelligent design the biggest argument for the existence of a higher being?

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it took billions of years for the world to evolve to what it currently is.
Modern humans haven't even been around for a million years, if I'm not mistaking

 

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Why is a big bang less believable than an invisible all powerful entity creating everything

Indoctrination. Pure and simple. Also they are taught at an early age to not question the bible

 

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in all honesty I've seen good arguments against intelligent design theory lol

i'm personally agnostic.

i've seen a ghost before.

whatever the answers are, we don't have them. i seriously doubt they are written in some old ass book written when they thought the earth was flat.

Also the bible was written hundreds of years after said events. It has had books added and taken out, words and phrases altered over time, all because of personal biases or for political reasons.

 

[skylove4]

SO IF U DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, WHAT DO U THINK IS GREATER THAN U?

WE ARE A CREATION.. EVERY CREATION HAS A CREATOR. THE CREATOR IS ALWAYS GREATER THAN THE CREATION. THE MORE INTRICATE THE CREATION, THE MORE INTELLIGENT THE CREATOR. THE INTRICACIES OF THIS UNIVERSE ARE UNFATHOMABLE .. THINKING THERES SOMETHIN GREATER THAN U IS SIMPLY A BYPRODUCT OF BELIEF IN GOD AS OPPOSED TO THE REASON BEHIND IT.

You seem obsessed with the notion of one thing being greater than the other. What if I told you the concept of great is arbitrary

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

Just referring to having out of body experiences, which were natural and I wasn’t under the influence of anything and not even smoking weed during that period of time. And I didn’t believe in stuff like that or ghost or no shyt and thought it was silly, so I wasn’t searching or looking or even believed in that type of shyt. When I had these experiences, I didn’t see God or nothing like that, but they felt spiritual in nature. And the main thing I got from it was, that I think that’s what happens when you die and that your soul moves on. It was just a natural feeling I had. Now science would say those experiences were hallucinations or some type of dream. But they were just as real or realer than reality to me. I tend to trust my own instincts over anything. But at the end of the day no can know anything for sure, so who knows

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Yes
But if there is a God, they're nothing like what's in the books

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Because everything looks like it was designed which points to the existence of a higher being.

Such organisation can't come from a random big bang explosion.

This is true and false at the same time. God could have controlled the big bang and all of the elements in it, knowing that over time huge stars would form and explode creating all the things needed for life. Maybe our God just created the formula, knowing it would eventually create intelligence.

The formula bring created by an intelligent higher power is damn near non debatable. According to science, evolution takes place no matter what. Humanoid type of fish would wash off on land but they would die because they couldn't return to the water. Over time, nature literally "gave" those humanoid fish legs to be able to navigate land. That shyt is fukking amazing.

Our higher power most likely has no direct control over what happens in the universe, he created the formula and let it build itself.

 

[klientel]

It’s funny some posters in here are like “this shyt was created, use common sense!!”

Please explain what proof you have that any of this was created. Nobody in human history has been able to figure this out but somehow the coli has. And I mean irrefutable proof not some dumb shyt like “oh there are fish in the water…and umm then humans eat the fish!!!”

I’ll wait

if not just say you have no idea wtf is going on like the rest of us and keep it movin. Atleast with the Big Bang theory there is some evidence that it COULD be correct. That’s way more and any religious theory out there.

oh my bad I forgot….you have an old book written by some dudes.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

So you think your consciousness lives forever? Seems like some dumbass shyt to me. More likely you die and BOOM, you're gone, like you fell asleep and didn't wake up. Hence life is a tragic joke.

I honestly think your consciousness would immediately transfer to a new born baby. Your memory gets completely wiped, but your consciousness starts over as a new person.

Or maybe our consciousness does go to an afterlife and we get reviewed after each lifetime before our consciousness transfers to a new person. Maybe when you die all of your memories are unlocked and you can remember each lifetime. What if the review of your last life controls where your consciousness will go next?


I'm just brainstorming right now but, that shyt would be kinda dope

 

[shadowking]

Because everything looks like it was designed which points to the existence of a higher being.

Such organisation can't come from a random big bang explosion.

well how "everything looks like" doesnt pass for academic rigor thankfully
science has a much higher threshold for its theoretical underpinnings than 'how it looks'

 

[Kenny West]

Atheists in here furious but I see no serious refutation to the arguments made

Yall indoctrinated to believe everything in a textbook when only a few years ago pluto was a planet and bullshyt concepts like Freudiasm were widely accepted. The nature of science is theories, many constantly fluid and being revised.

The separation of church and state was a move to limit the political influence of the church. It doesn't give you goofies intellectual superiority over theists like yall tell yourselves

 

[Maximus Rex]

Yall indoctrinated to believe everything in a textbook

 

[Kenny West]

Harvard historian examines how textbooks taught white supremacy

They wouldn't go through the trouble if it didn't work.

 

[wastedmermaid]

Because everything looks like it was designed which points to the existence of a higher being.

Such organisation can't come from a random big bang explosion.

how do you know? How much research have you done on the Big Bang? I think saying that it’s just a random explosion is a ridiculous oversimplification

 

[Dwayne_Taylor]

Theres no intelligent design
The solar system is basically a death trap