Is Islam truly innocent of ISIS?

[Broke Wave]

youre not gonna find me denying that shyt breh

thats not the topic, so that was just another deflection while ignoring the deep rooted violence that it stems from that was around way the fukk before america was.

for the record, i dont support israel in the least, and if arabs hate us because of our support of it then i dont take isue with that either. imo we deserve it

You legit need to click the link under my name because you're asleep apparently. I didn't deflect once and what you say about Iraq having deep rooted violence is called racism my white friend. It's not based in facts and only your stereotypes so I'm going to have to ask you to show me the deep rooted violence you're talking about before I stamp your comment with an R.

You're not going to cop out by telling me you don't support Israel. I don't give a fukk about Arabs we're talking about Islam. They are not the same thing. Arabs hate America for killing them in the hundreds of thousands for NO REASON. But a few violent verses in the Quran will absolve America of all that because they believe in an irrational medieval religion, while you support secular humanist America which killed more Iraqi's in it's illegal aggressive war and sanctions than have or will ever die as a result of Islamic extremism.

 

[the cac mamba]

You legit need to click the link under my name because you're asleep apparently. I didn't deflect once and what you say about Iraq having deep rooted violence is called racism my white friend. It's not based in facts and only your stereotypes so I'm going to have to ask you to show me the deep rooted violence you're talking about before I stamp your comment with an R.

You're not going to cop out by telling me you don't support Israel. I don't give a fukk about Arabs we're talking about Islam. They are not the same thing. Arabs hate America for killing them in the hundreds of thousands for NO REASON. But a few violent verses in the Quran will absolve America of all that because they believe in an irrational medieval religion, while you support secular humanist America which killed more Iraqi's in it's illegal aggressive war and sanctions than have or will ever die as a result of Islamic extremism.

saying that islam has been responsible for historic violence is racist?



and btw im not tryna cop out about israel, thats how the fukk i feel u think i support my tax dollars blowing up kids playing soccer on a beach in a conflict between israel and palestine (not that i support it anywhere)? 4 billion a year to that state with nothing in return? im not tryna prove a fukkin thing to u breh

 

[the cac mamba]

another apologist who cant admit that islam is responsible for any violence

 

[the cac mamba]

In October to December 630, after the conquest of Mecca in January 630, Muhammad launches a Crusade to Tabuk, a city in the north of Saudi Arabia today, but in the seventh century it was under the control of northern tribes. "Crusade" is the right word, because early Muslim sources say the army had 30,000 men and 10,000 horsemen and because Muhammad did so under the banner of Islam. On his way north, Muhammad extracts (or extorts) "agreements"—without provocation—from smaller Christian Arab tribes to pay the jizyah tax, instead of being attacked and killed (a jizya tax is exacted from non-Muslims for the "privilege" of living under Islam; see Sura 9:29). They also had the option to convert, but most do not and agree, rather, to pay the tax

 

[Broke Wave]

saying that islam has been responsible for historic violence is racist?



and btw im not tryna cop out about israel, thats how the fukk i feel u think i support my tax dollars blowing up kids playing soccer on a beach in a conflict between israel and palestine (not that i support it anywhere)? 4 billion a year to that state with nothing in return? im not tryna prove a fukkin thing to u breh

The region has deeply rooted historical violence... the region called... Islam? What is the capital of Islam? Who's the President

I was talking about the Iraq area, where the people you hail as the peak of society committed a horrible crime against humanity. The same place where people like you say look, look at these savages, if only they were secular, like us. This is an argument you are not only losing but you're also losing your mind. Maybe it's financial troubles? Click my sig and get your finances right, and maybe you can hire a debate coach.

Maybe even me, I hear I'm really good

 

[the cac mamba]

The region has deeply rooted historical violence.

I was talking about the Iraq area the people you hail as the peak of society committed a horrible crime against humanity. The same place where people like you say look, look at these savages, if only they were secular, like us. T

the islamic crusades didnt happen

the bolded isnt a proper sentence so i dont know how to respond to it, but id like to. leme know when you fix it

 

[Broke Wave]

the islamic crusades didnt happen

the bolded isnt a proper sentence so i dont know how to respond to it, but id like to. leme know when you fix it

There were no "Islamic Crusades" that is absolutely preposterous. Just throw in the white flag while you're at it. I asked you about the deeply rooted violence in Iraq and you went back 1400 years to the Prophet from Mecca, in Saudi Arabia. Is Islamic responsible for violence? Of course, it's part of our religion. Violence is a part of Islam. WOW STOP THE PRESSES GUIZE YOU JUST DEFEATED THE FINAL BOSS OF ISLAM

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

another apologist who cant admit that islam is responsible for any violence

i never said that. but they, along with countless other nations have been invaded for one reason or another AFTER the borders for the new world were established.. im of the opinion that the responsibility lies with the 'powerful' .. and the powerful behave like the devil himself.. thats where brics comes in, the west is in too deep and the powers shifting

 

[the cac mamba]

There were no "Islamic Crusades" that is absolutely preposterous.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

The true problem with Islam is that it's a religion with a just war doctrine. The thing is, humans are able to wildly interpret scripture (as they do in all faiths) to justify their actions under the cloak of divine morality. Islam needs to re-define jihad so it doesn't not connote to holy war against those who are deemed unbelievers or haram.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ahh the textbook war verses in the Quran as a standalone out of context, juxtaposed with Arab intolerance and turmoil in the Middle East. I'm amazed at how these authors follow the blueprint so tightly

Using the Muslim Brotherhood, the right wing boogieman in America, to illustrate an argument of whether Islam as an entire religion is innocent of 10 thousand people, when ISIS would kill anyone in the MB, really lets ya know where he's getting funding from.

Instead of generalizing a complex issue for right wing audiences in order to receive grants from Islamophobic billionaires, I invite the author to Wake Up Now, so he can achieve financial security and write for himself

Whats out of context about those verses? Unless you just want to ignore them.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're gonna have to wake up, now

I didn't say any of those things, I just stated a fact. Those verses are out of context regardless of what you want to think. I'm not a child I understand the second part of what you're saying but that to me is deeper than just they believe in X. I have a hard time believing Iraq would be peaceful if only they were secular.

Iraq WAS "secular" under Saddam, but we're talking about ISIS right now.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

these guys will try anything to discredit the true word of God. to free speech

Oh really?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It doesn't really matter what they believe because the secular Western Liberal world committed more atrocious and violence crimes in Iraq than ISIS could do in their wildest dreams. Why don't you reflect on that quickly, friend

But we're talking about ISIS though.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There were no "Islamic Crusades" that is absolutely preposterous. Just throw in the white flag while you're at it. I asked you about the deeply rooted violence in Iraq and you went back 1400 years to the Prophet from Mecca, in Saudi Arabia. Is Islamic responsible for violence? Of course, it's part of our religion. Violence is a part of Islam. WOW STOP THE PRESSES GUIZE YOU JUST DEFEATED THE FINAL BOSS OF ISLAM