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Honestly, I think waiting for political reform is a long battle. I appreciate your vision though. If you look at most Latin American/African countries you can see this situation can go on for generations. For me I think decentralizing Haiti is the solution. I have already given up on Port-au-Prince tbh. I think building the economies of the other regions is an easier solution. The north and south are less populated,less corrupt, more organized, have more natural resources ( for tourism, manufacturing etc). I've been to DR,Jamaica, and Mexico and you can see that the do not treat the capitals like the heart of these nations. From Montego Bay, Punta Cana,Cancun areas, they just do their own thing. Am sure there kickback game is still there but that is happening in the USA as well in one form or another.


I hope you didn't listen to Chesire's irrelevant tangential arguments. He is a master at misdirection and changing the subject. The fact only 1 of the Haitian Chamber of Commerce is black speaks to what @Crackface has said all along in addition to the general racial hierarchy in the Americas, which is present anywhere there are mixed and black people coexisting. When all the persuasive evidence points one way, you must follow whereever it leads. I said about the same thing you and @Crackface said almost half a year ago:

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Sep 30, 2013
Lord Aldon
Also, like I said before, mixed societies are no panacea for blacks. The blacks are still at the bottom and it's musical chairs at the top."


Chesire's vapid and dishonest attempts to misrepresent the issues speak to his loyalties.
 
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I hope you didn't listen to Chesire's irrelevant tangential arguments. He is a master at misdirection and changing the subject. The fact only 1 of the Haitian Chamber of Commerce is black speaks to what @Crackface has said all along in addition to the general racial hierarchy in the Americas, which is present anywhere there are mixed and black people coexisting. When all the persuasive evidence points one way, you must follow whereever it leads. I said about the same thing you and @Crackface said almost half a year ago:

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Sep 30, 2013
Lord Aldon
Also, like I said before, mixed societies are no panacea for blacks. The blackest are still at the bottom and the whitest still at the top."


Chesire's vapid and dishonest attempts to misrepresent the issues speak to his loyalties.
If you're under the tutelage, protection and care of cacs this is how it will come out. Its not like these were light skinned brothas that were raised among the people and have that mindset. They were raised with massa and for centuries have been under his wing so its obvious they're just going to act like cacs. In my homeland Cape Verde we had the same colonizer but somehow we overcame this trash but i think that has a lot to do with the economics of the islands. They arent as profitable as Haiti so the need for their to be division among black people is greater because it means the white man can get the prices cheaper and step foot into the island to rape people with impunity.
 
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well pat robertson said that god is punishing Haiti for the revolution :ehh:

that's obviously the correct answer
 

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I hope you didn't listen to Chesire's irrelevant tangential arguments. He is a master at misdirection and changing the subject. The fact only 1 of the Haitian Chamber of Commerce is black speaks to what @Crackface has said all along in addition to the general racial hierarchy in the Americas, which is present anywhere there are mixed and black people coexisting. When all the persuasive evidence points one way, you must follow whereever it leads. I said about the same thing you and @Crackface said almost half a year ago:

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Sep 30, 2013
Lord Aldon
Also, like I said before, mixed societies are no panacea for blacks. The blacks are still at the bottom and it's musical chairs at the top."


Chesire's vapid and dishonest attempts to misrepresent the issues speak to his loyalties.
You're such a joke, it's hilarious. You don't try to refute any of the shyt I say, and claim I was going off on tangent... but if you read all the posts instead of skimming through them you could see I was addressing the OP and what was being said about "lightskinned" nikkaz.You truly are a smart dumb nikka if there ever was one. you remind me of this brother right here
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. You swear you just kicked some knowledge but you really said nothing. Instead you try to paint me out as sneaky and a master of deception and misdirection:russ:. Really breh that's all you got?? Fallacies?? Ad hominem attacks on my character. You have issues with lightskinned and bircial people it's clear but you have no idea what the hell you're talking about when it comes to my country and Any Haitian intellectual would laugh at your dumb ass if you tried to kick that weak shyt.
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Your weak evidence is the Haitian chamber of commerce, some positions that constantly change. :snoop:
Have you seen Michelle Martelly's Cabinet? His staff contains people of all shades, so there goes your theory.


I never said that there wasn't a problem with the mulatto population back in the days during the beginning of Haiti, I clearly said that that is not the reason that Haiti is in the mess it is right now, it's way more complex than that. I don't expect for you to know, since you must likely don't know what the meaning of "L'union faits la force" is or even what the flag signifies. Haiti had economic problems that stemmed from both external factors ( an invisible embargo) and internal factors. You also seem to not be aware of the fact that mulattre (aka mulatto) is a social class not a color as there are darker people in the social class... it's more like a gang/mafia than a color. There are poor lightskinned people in Haiti and nobody calls them mulattre because they are poor... do you get it now?

Also clarification on the families that were considered blan (White) the ones from Europe and the Arabs who are mostly Syrian, they control industry the most out of anyone so it makes sense that they can pull strings in Haiti and flex political muscle since that happens here. These families married among themselves until the last 30-40 years where they started marrying with some of the Haitian intellectuals. They are now considered mulattre, are they the same as the offspring as the mulattos from old? No they aren't... because some of those old mulatto's children are now poor and destitute. The Syrians used to invite people from Syria to come down and marry to avoid mixing. This isn't exclusive to Haiti, you can see the same thing in other islands.

You talk about allegiances, but really all you do is project your insecurities on to this topic. I know the history of Haiti, I know the role the mulattoes played in clinging to old ways... but I'm smart enough to know that Haiti had many chances get on the right track but couldn't due to corrupt people selling the fukk out, be they black, mixed, light or dark, or even white. Reading is fundamental because it's not the first time I'm saying thing, yet you missed it. Btw I'm mixed/light because my mom married someone here in America that wasn't Haitian what does that gotta do with me aligning myself with rich powerful families in Haiti and what they do.... are mixed people in the US aligned with The Rockerfellers and the Rothschilds?:camby:

Haiti for the most part has been over the divisiveness for a long time and is more angry about the mismanagement of the country. Powerful people rarely relinquish control so there is still issues with these families, but it's a double edge sword... those same families also supply a lot of the things Haiti needs and eliminate competition. Yet we are beginning to see powerful people who are against oligarchs like those of the people that work with Digicel in Haiti.

If you're under the tutelage, protection and care of cacs this is how it will come out. Its not like these were light skinned brothas that were raised among the people and have that mindset. They were raised with massa and for centuries have been under his wing so its obvious they're just going to act like cacs. In my homeland Cape Verde we had the same colonizer but somehow we overcame this trash but i think that has a lot to do with the economics of the islands. They arent as profitable as Haiti so the need for their to be division among black people is greater because it means the white man can get the prices cheaper and step foot into the island to rape people with impunity.
As for you, stop sucking dikk b. This isn't cabo verde it's Haiti we're talking about... while all former colonial nations share similar histories and issues. Haiti is one small and yet very complex Island with a rich history that was the interest of many nations. You asked me who killed the first Emporer of Haiti, I told you Petion and christophe... you said them lighskinned nikkaz... one of them was obviously Darkskinned. Everyone had their own plans for Haiti and their own Ideas on how to run it... which is why Petion and Christophe split the Islands into two different states. You and your lover blaming lightskinned people for all the countries ills is akin to Americans blaming Mexicans or other groups for all it's problems.
well pat robertson said that god is punishing Haiti for the revolution :ehh:

that's obviously the correct answer
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