Is it me or does it just seem like things are more low quality these days?

[Luke Cage]

I feel like cars are better, back in the day, you could buy a brand new car a get a lemon. Nowadays, you only have to worry about that with an old used car that wasn't maintained properly. There aren't any modern equilvalents to the pinto these days. build quality (at least with gas powered cars) is >>>>>
Pretty much any new car these days can give you 200k miles without major problems if properly maintained.

 

[Psychosis]

Everything is made of shytty plastic now. I bought some Ryobi power tools and they were made of plastic wtf

 

[Mike Nasty]

My Honda lawnmower just stopped working after 2 years. I drove and paid more for that position. When this Ryobi stops working I'm going to Rusty's and getting a $50 used one.

 

[Deltron]

Got into an argument with my friend a couple weeks ago about shytty customer service

this one is the truest. 90% is overseas call centers or those shytty automated ones where they don't want you to to talk to no one

 

[mbewane]

Nope. Americans were convinced that if manufacturing were moved overseas, Americans would in turn get less expensive goods. When manufacturing moved overseas, labor cost for a company would drop to a fraction of the cost. Yet, Americans ended up with cheaper goods and fewer jobs, while the corporations pocketed the extra profits. Cheap & Inexpensive shouldn't be used as synonyms. I worked in retail for years and watched clothing go down in quality, but not in price, first hand. The concept of a Ferragamo dress shoe with a glued on sole was unthinkable 20 years ago, yet here we are. Food is getting ridiculous now too. Double stuffed Oreos are really just the old regular Oreos, but Gen Zers are too young to notice the finesse.

Anyone thinking it could've gone any other way is naive af. Capitalism isn't for the consumer's benefit, it's for corporation to make more profit. Anything that actually benefits the consumer is just a byproduct.

 

[Arithmetic]

Got into an argument with my friend a couple weeks ago about shytty customer service

RIP to Customer service March 2020

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

They're made with the intention of throwing away. Look at how some people were questioning why the EU intends on pushing phone manufacturers to make the batteries replaceable.

It is one of the reasons why I don't put much faith in millennials. Quick at pointing out problems until the solution inconveniences them.

You really going to blame millennials on this. Come on. That makes as much sense as a fart telling a pile of shyt it stinks.

 

[Spence]

We live in a society based on disposable goods. If things were well made the company would be limited on frequency of purchase.

 

[jadillac]

Got into an argument with my friend a couple weeks ago about shytty customer service

I blame this partly on social media telling everyone they are a superstar and don't need to work hard.

In reality, everyone should be required to work customer service jobs at least once in their life. It teaches you how NOT to act towards ppl serving you bc you have respect for their job.

 

[Alvin]

Software has more glitches

Hardware seems to break more easily.

Clothes are more flimsy.



It just feels like overall craftsmanship isn't a priority.



This extends socially too. Our politicians suck for the most part.

in the last couple of months it's because of inflation
Hardware and software though? that has to deal with the fact of where we buy it from and who makes it. When it comes to software, shareholders want it out fast before developers can work the bugs out, also why work the bugs out when you can release it broken and just send an update later.

 

[jadillac]

We live in a society based on disposable goods. If things were well made the company would be limited on frequency of purchase.

Not true.

If you sell enough QUALITY products, over time you will have a rotating list of returning customers and new ones.

For example if Honda or Toyotas last 8-10 years, they will likely have a rotating list of returning customers, as well as new ones.

The trick is to outlast your competitors products just long enough to where it's noticeable

 

[Spence]

Not true.

If you sell enough QUALITY products, over time you will have a rotating list of returning customers and new ones.

For example if Honda or Toyotas last 8-10 years, they will likely have a rotating list of returning customers, as well as new ones.

The trick is to outlast your competitors products just long enough to where it's noticeable

Cars aren’t the same as printers and laptops. I’m talking about all the Chinesium shyt sub $1000

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Like other posters said it is the result of capitalism. For those who like documentaries, check out "The Men Who Made Us Spend." This a three part series and this is the first one. Worth watching if you have time to kill. A good cliff note is between 7:30 - 11:30.

 

[jadillac]

Cars aren’t the same as printers and laptops. I’m talking about all the Chinesium shyt sub $1000

Well, I personally won't buy what I consider "offbrand" electronics. Because it's likely made in China for the cheap and will have issues.

Just like they do the trick of buying traditional American name brands and reselling under Chinese production. Ie, RCA tv's and GE tv's.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Not true.

If you sell enough QUALITY products, over time you will have a rotating list of returning customers and new ones.

For example if Honda or Toyotas last 8-10 years, they will likely have a rotating list of returning customers, as well as new ones.

The trick is to outlast your competitors products just long enough to where it's noticeable

That is textbook capitalism but not the real world. Once companies have hold on a market, quality will go down if it's cost effective which is often the case. Quality is then upheld to the level of competition. Since you used cars look at Kia. When they first came out they didn't have a good reputation. So they offered 10 year warranties and actually had buy one and get the car free sales (seriously). Now their quality matches their competition which isn't always a good thing. New cares only have an outline of a bumper and don't come with a spare tire. We are near 2023 and new cars are still only offering 30-40 mpg like it's something special.