Is it really over for Meek? NYC club booing because dreams and nightmares was played...

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:whoa:i think theres two situations going on here, which is why all these debates and discussions are getting confusing with 'who won, who lost'

situation 1: the ghostwriting:sadcam: allegations (which is somewhat connected to...

situation 2: the actual, musical, beef. the tracks.

the ghostwriting allegations still stand, but a rap beef on wax is just that. track vs track.:manny:

as far as diss tracks? drake beat mill, cuz b2b is the superior song. quotables, jabs, haymakers. even without saying meeks name, its full of ether on him.:yeshrug:

did drizzy write it? who knows. maybe:heh:, maybe not. id bet he wrote it, if not the lions share of it, just cuz at this point, with the allegations swirling, itd be in bad taste to have someone else write your diss track:scusthov:. but overall, its a better song and diss song, than meeks. so for the actual rap beef on wax, drizzy is winning. that could change if meek drops the rest of his song:feedme:.

but back to situation 1: the allegations. they havent been confirmed nor denied by him or his team:patrice:. the reference tracks that leaked, while disappointing, aren't damning, cuz its clear to see they are majority hooks (save for 10 bandz and rico) and even then, its a fraction of the entire song that was taken from the reference. again, disappointing, but also not a nail in the coffin (at least not until someone leaks full reference joints of all verses, etc.)

just because meek said drizzy has a ghostwriter, and then leaked some reference tracks, doesnt mean he automatically wins a rap battle. i admit the story about drizzy getting :piss:on is funny:ooh:, but that and the :takedat:line is pretty much all Meek had, and only one of those was an actual rap bar. and you cant win a rap battle when you have a 4 minute song with nothing memorable, save for an adlibbed reference to a story everyone had to scour the internet for after the fact:beli:, and 1 rapped reference to diddy (tho it was :mjlol:)

so basically, in terms of the better diss track that was released, meek is losing. that diss track and his declaring that drake has ghostwriters, are not one in the same. granted, it sheds questions on who wrote b2b, definitely, but regardless, drake put out a better record than meek, hands down, regardless of who the author was. theres no disqualification in battle rap, so it is what it is.:manny:

no :cape:, just straight talk. i fux with both meek and drizzy.

i dont think folks will ignore the ghostwriting shyt (everything comes back around), but right now, meeks lackluster song overshadowed everything else, unfortunately, and hes getting killed online for it. people gonna ride with the better track, regardless.

no one is gonna be like 'yo lemme ride for this weaker song:stylin:, cuz at least meek wrote all that weak shyt himself bul, thats real hip hop':childplease:

my 2 centz :ld:
 

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This is in Toronto? Why should anyone be surprised by the home court advantage?
 

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Meek is Ja Rule now....
nah, ja rules career was on a downward slope, while meek is just getting started. he'll be alright once the hype dies down. drizzy still hasn't addressed the allegations. that'll be the focus once the hype dies down.
 

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nah, ja rules career was on a downward slope, while meek is just getting started. he'll be alright once the hype dies down. drizzy still hasn't addressed the allegations. that'll be the focus once the hype dies down.


Meek been out for 5 years. He aint new, his career just wasn't going anywhere. He done.
 

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It's not over. He obviously can't win here. He'll have to fall back and really come out with some great music and do a Future style comeback.
 

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They boo your hottest club song? Hell yeah it might be over for you.

But he still got older stuff (Dreamchasers 2 has a few hits) they can play but the Intro was the Meek track you play for the clubs.
 
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