Is it safe to say that Fruitvale Station was overrated and ducktales?

[Xtraz2]

Every white person that felt that way still feels that way. This movie did nothing to change that. It was way too over the top the way they tried to shove it in your face how he was a good guy who had just started to turn his life around or whatever. Every...single....scene Oscar was in, the entire point of the scene was to show how he was supposed to be some good Samaritan. Thats what made it so unbelievable. I didnt find a human element to his character.

The first maybe 45 minutes of the movie was incredibly slow and boring, plus the fact that it was obvious a lot of stuff was fabricated left a bad taste in my mouth up until the point when there were actually on the BART. And the pitbull scene served two functions: one, to make the audience empathize with Oscar. He's obviously a good person if he cares about animals. and two, the pitbull is a metaphor for young black males. They're perceived as a threat...violent and uncontrollable to the general population. But when the dog dies, you realize its a living thing thats mortal and feels pain just like everyone else. So that kinda set up some foreshadowing as to whats going to happen to Oscar.

And overall, the acting was pretty terrible. I'm from Oakland, and the Fruitvale station was the BART stop in my neighborhood so I was pretty much there a couple times a week. The most frustrating part of the movie was honesty the fact that none of the main characters sounded or acted like people from Oakland. The extras, like a couple of his friends, and that asian dude he was supposed to sell the weed too sounded like some bay nikkas tho.

you talkin bout his family didn't sound like they wuz from Oakland?

i think you looked at tha film too critically, i didn't watch it like siskel and ebert, i just watched it as a entertaining movie, it showed dude is a normal guy, i don't think it showed him in a positive light every time, they showed him in jail, they showed him cuss out his manager for losing his job, etc...

tha great thing about tha movie is it humanized oscar grant, becuz if u read tha news clips, they said he wuz a criminal and aspiring rapper or some shyt, this movie let CACs know wut its like living in tha hood and its just regular people there, tha newspaper makes cats like oscar tha boogeyman, but this movie showed his home/family life etc and showed his momma got tha same concerns that lil timmy from tha suburbs do, i think that connected with audiences and why tha movie is praised so much.....

 

[andre patton]

this bout as authentic as the bay sound ever been in any movie I can remember in recent memory bruh... what part didnt sound or act like oakland ?

you act like they was saying son and b and shyt they was talkin real bay shyt in the movie

shyt you the first person i ever heard say that... if theres 1 thing fruitvale station did right was capture oakland n the bay right..

you talkin bout his family didn't sound like they wuz from Oakland?

i think you looked at tha film too critically, i didn't watch it like siskel and ebert, i just watched it as a entertaining movie, it showed dude is a normal guy, i don't think it showed him in a positive light every time, they showed him in jail, they showed him cuss out his manager for losing his job, etc...

tha great thing about tha movie is it humanized oscar grant, becuz if u read tha news clips, they said he wuz a criminal and aspiring rapper or some shyt, this movie let CACs know wut its like living in tha hood and its just regular people there, tha newspaper makes cats like oscar tha boogeyman, but this movie showed his home/family life etc and showed his momma got tha same concerns that lil timmy from tha suburbs do, i think that connected with audiences and why tha movie is praised so much.....

i do agree i am hypercritical of what i would expect actors to look and sound like when they're supposed to be in Oakland (or hayward, or anywhere else in the east bay). i kinda just brought that up because it bothered me throughout the movie. oscar tried to slip in a couple "you feel me's" and "hella's" and he's now supposed to be an authentic bay nikka

but like you say...they showed him locked up, yeah. but why didnt they say what he was there for? he wasnt in county jail or some shyt...that nikka was in san quentin. thats the state prison for some serious felonies. i felt like they were being dishonest by not mentioning why he was there. and the entire scene culminated with a son wanting nothing more than to tell his mom how sorry he was, and wanting a hug from her.

then the scene with him gettin a lil loud w/ his manager or whatever. but the point of that scene was to show how passionate Oscar was about getting his life back on track, and just work his normal 9-5 to provide for his family and give up the selling drugs.

it all seemed too contrived and disingenuous to me. i can see the argument people make about how white people would watch the shyt...and pick apart every bad thing he did to make it sound like he deserved to get shot or some bullshyt like that. i mean damn, we heard it anyway. "if he just woulda cooperated with the police then he would be alive today. he should've kept his mouth shut " or "he went to prison on a gun charge....he could've ended up killing someone in my family one day good riddance " its unfortunate we have to completely change events to cater thing specifically towards white people to get them to understand. i actually dont think oscar deserved a biopic like this. theres not enough interesting material within the last day of his life to make a 80 minute movie out of. i wouldve been more impressed with a documentary like movie about police brutality in oakland...its effects on the community....the dynamic between the people and the police...brought up lovelle mixon and the fact that he killed a couple cops a few weeks after the fruitvale incident...etc. instead of trying to come off as a series of real events that happened in the last day of oscars life, i would have preferred if they just wrote a completely different script/movie and just incorporated the fruitvale incident within it.

 

[kp404]

in a 2 hour movie you are pin pointing maybe 5 minutes of total screen time to discredit a great movie and also a real story

OP doesn't relate to a human story about a black man that was lynched because he may have issues with race or is a troll...either way, thread is an F- and OP needs to read history and understand regardless of who the black man was, he did not deserved to be lynched...period.

 

[itsyoung!!]

i do agree i am hypercritical of what i would expect actors to look and sound like when they're supposed to be in Oakland (or hayward, or anywhere else in the east bay). i kinda just brought that up because it bothered me throughout the movie. oscar tried to slip in a couple "you feel me's" and "hella's" and he's now supposed to be an authentic bay nikka

but like you say...they showed him locked up, yeah. but why didnt they say what he was there for? he wasnt in county jail or some shyt...that nikka was in san quentin. thats the state prison for some serious felonies. i felt like they were being dishonest by not mentioning why he was there. and the entire scene culminated with a son wanting nothing more than to tell his mom how sorry he was, and wanting a hug from her.

then the scene with him gettin a lil loud w/ his manager or whatever. but the point of that scene was to show how passionate Oscar was about getting his life back on track, and just work his normal 9-5 to provide for his family and give up the selling drugs.

it all seemed too contrived and disingenuous to me. i can see the argument people make about how white people would watch the shyt...and pick apart every bad thing he did to make it sound like he deserved to get shot or some bullshyt like that. i mean damn, we heard it anyway. "if he just woulda cooperated with the police then he would be alive today. he should've kept his mouth shut " or "he went to prison on a gun charge....he could've ended up killing someone in my family one day good riddance " its unfortunate we have to completely change events to cater thing specifically towards white people to get them to understand. i actually dont think oscar deserved a biopic like this. theres not enough interesting material within the last day of his life to make a 80 minute movie out of. i wouldve been more impressed with a documentary like movie about police brutality in oakland...its effects on the community....the dynamic between the people and the police...brought up lovelle mixon and the fact that he killed a couple cops a few weeks after the fruitvale incident...etc. instead of trying to come off as a series of real events that happened in the last day of oscars life, i would have preferred if they just wrote a completely different script/movie and just incorporated the fruitvale incident within it.

you do know if you go to jail for any crime you do your psychological evaluation at san quentin right regardless of your crime ?? he could be in jail for 1 or 2 years for robbery and he still gotta do his evaluation at san quentin then they send you back to county

san quentin just aint for murder..

 

[andre patton]

you do know if you go to jail for any crime you do your psychological evaluation at san quentin right regardless of your crime ?? he could be in jail for 1 or 2 years for robbery and he still gotta do his evaluation at san quentin then they send you back to county

san quentin just aint for murder..

what do you mean regardless of the crime? so if you get arrested for a DUI in Oakland they're gonna send you to san quentin for a psych eval before you see the judge? that doesnt sound right.

but regardless, it was obvious he was serving some kinda sentence there based on the fact that his mom said she visited him a few times while he was there, he had been in altercations while there, etc. my point was since he was serving time at san quen it must have been some kinda felony as opposed to some lessor crime they have you spend a couple days in county for.

 

[itsyoung!!]

what do you mean regardless of the crime? so if you get arrested for a DUI in Oakland they're gonna send you to san quentin for a psych eval before you see the judge? that doesnt sound right.

but regardless, it was obvious he was serving some kinda sentence there based on the fact that his mom said she visited him a few times while he was there, he had been in altercations while there, etc. my point was since he was serving time at san quen it must have been some kinda felony as opposed to some lessor crime they have you spend a couple days in county for.

not if you are in county for the weekend no they arent sending you there

but if you are convicted of a felony and have to spend any time in county for the felony you gotta do your evaluation at san quentin

for example my patna had 2 years for armed robbery he had to do 90 days evaluation at san quentin then spend the rest of his time back in county

 

[LastManStanding]

Didnt watch but I wont be surprised if they made up a bunch of shyt for the movie, they do it all the time.

I dont take any movie that is supposed to be based off a true story serious.

Hell I just learned that movie The Butler was mostly all made up nonsense.

http://www.blackbluedog.com/2013/08...s-son-didnt-die-a-lot-of-scenes-were-made-up/

Movie is automatic

The Butler was pure shyt and just another attempt to sweep up awards using a sensitive topic. it was about as "true" of a story as The Hunger Games.

I am so glad that the Academy Awards ignored that Oprah fairy tale bullshyt movie and gave 12 Years a Slave the attention it deserved.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Based on a true story ( we made up a bunch of shyt tho).

That's the whole point of "Based on a true story". It allows for creative license.

If any movie claims "True story" and gets a single solitary detail wrong, they open themselves up for lawsuits.

This is basic shyt. Happens in any movie that's based on a true story. How do you motherfukkers not know this?

 

[Xtraz2]

what do you mean regardless of the crime? so if you get arrested for a DUI in Oakland they're gonna send you to san quentin for a psych eval before you see the judge? that doesnt sound right.

but regardless, it was obvious he was serving some kinda sentence there based on the fact that his mom said she visited him a few times while he was there, he had been in altercations while there, etc. my point was since he was serving time at san quen it must have been some kinda felony as opposed to some lessor crime they have you spend a couple days in county for.

Sound like you just lookin for an angle to criticize

nikka wuts your point about all this?

 

[Q Money]

in a 2 hour movie you are pin pointing maybe 5 minutes of total screen time to discredit a great movie and also a real story

shyt was 80 minutes

 

[andre patton]

Sound like you just lookin for an angle to criticize

nikka wuts your point about all this?

that the movie felt contrived, dishonest, and the subject matter wasnt interesting enough to make a full feature length film. i didnt really like the movie. i said why, and pointed to the scenes i had issues with.

 

[Dog Based Gremlin]

bout that time again

 

[YakSpiller]

This thread smelling like mayonnaise and wet-dog

 

[NobodyReally]

in a 2 hour movie you are pin pointing maybe 5 minutes of total screen time to discredit a great movie and also a real story

I think what the OP is talking about is a legitimate gripe with the movie. My first comment after seeing it was how much was true. For me, the fictionalized parts felt manipulative and condescending. I don't need a real life story about an unarmed black man being killed unjustly to be cleaned up and sanctified in order to value his life. Whether or not he was a saint, he shouldn't have died. They tried too hard to show why his life should have value instead of trusting the audience to come to that conclusion themselves.

 

[Fctftl]

I thought it was a good movie RIP Oscar