Is Jamaican culture just as influential as ADOS/FBLA or more?

[Hungerpain]

Are you alright You think Imma start arguing about this? I got kids bro, I'm good man... this aint 2008

Yea because There's nothing for you to argue about.

Good day mate, Cheerio.

 

[WaveGang]

Yea because There's nothing for you to argue about.

Good day mate, Cheerio.

A Jamaican created hip hop

The greatest rapper of all time is Jamaican

The concept of rap/dj battles was stolen from Jamaican sound clashes

 

[Real]

A Jamaican created hip hop

The greatest rapper of all time is Jamaican

The concept of rap/dj battles was stolen from Jamaican sound clashes

Who’s the Jamaican that created hip hop?

 

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[SupaDupaFresh]

A Jamaican created hip hop

The greatest rapper of all time is Jamaican

The concept of rap/dj battles was stolen from Jamaican sound clashes

Oh boy you bout to get a bunch of random Youtube videos of disco DJs arguing over who started Hip Hop parties and random book clippings about one obscure record from the 1940s even though theres little documentation or recording of "black music" outside the United States at the time, but I guess that settles that. There was no "black music" before black Americans...everyone "jacked off" of Americans of course! What geniuses of research we have in this thread.



Decades of established history disproven.



Niccas use the same tactics as st0rmfr0nt cacs in these tIred ass threads. They use to have threads, dozens of pages long, "proving" with "receipts" that Irish folk music had rhyming/rapping centuries before "black music," that some white guys recorded turntable experimentation in the 1950s long before Hip Hop DJs, that rock and roll drew influence from recorded country hill billy music in the 1940s, and jazz music was largely inspired by white European classical musicians and "framework." Kind of like how Afrobeat is musically based on "ADOS framework" whatever the fukk that means, and is therefore Nigerians "jacking ADOS." Yes ive read this shyt before. Yes these dudes are incredibly insecure and desperate for intellectual attention.

Forget all the history and development behind the genre itself in the country of its origin. Anecdotal "facts" preceding that genre means we must admit to our inferiority, thievery, and attribute every bit of that musical conception and development to others . Since this is the road of ahistorical supremacy the ADOSians want to impose. Might as well start giving Jazz music to the ADOSM (american descendants of slave masters) to whome we "jacked" the "framework" of the genre. Because Jazz sounds nothing like ooga booga African drum circles. Its Africans jacking white European musical "framework." Of course .

The sad part is ive never in real life seen Jamaicans try to "claim" Hip Hop. The Caribbean is so rich with unique genres with such deep African roots-Soca, Calypso, Reggae, dancehall, and so on-most dont know or even care about Caribbeans contribution to Hip Hop music. You walk into a Caribbean club or block party you hear everything from all over the diaspora. They love and celebrate ALL OUR MUSIC-American, Caribbean, Nigerian and otherwise-without all this phony rivalry lonely coli nikkas invent in their heads. Glad all this tribalistic coli infighting is only on the fukking coli.

 

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[Hungerpain]

A Jamaican created hip hop

The greatest rapper of all time is Jamaican

The concept of rap/dj battles was stolen from Jamaican sound clashes

Sure

Try harder next time bruv.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

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Threads about congressional Republican obstructing or challenging black civil rights can barely break a couple pages within a week. But these trash ass anti-immigrant circle jerk threads will produce three dozen pages of infighting over bullshyt in the same amount of time. A thread about Kamala Harris will be a hundred pages of hate from other black people, mostly jeering her Caribbean heritage and hypothetical conspiracies of her "disrespecting ADOS", but a thread about Trump directly attacking or insulting black Americans gets crickets. Welcome to the Coli. The only pro-black website where attacking other black people gets you more traffic than attacking white supremacists.

 

[audemarzz]

A bytch nikka in his purse

Soundclashes came from these

and we were doing this 40 years beforehand

because they listened and watched

and it wasn't a parallel development.
We supercharged their musical development, we are the reason mento isn't just pots and pans, and why all other forms of music have the KICK/HAT/SNARE pattern.
BABY DODDS, INVENTOR OF THE MODERN DRUM KIT.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

Soundclashes came from these

and we were doing this 40 years beforehand

because they listened and watched

and it wasn't a parallel development.
We supercharged their musical development, we are the reason mento isn't just pots and pans, and why all other forms of music have the KICK/HAT/SNARE pattern.
BABY DODDS, INVENTOR OF THE MODERN DRUM KIT.

A "battle of the bands" R&B concert is not a Jamaican DJ sound system clash. There were tons of "battle of the bands" concerts before this Motown set in 1964. This was not a new invention. Jamaican culture in the 1970s had no direct influence on Hip Hop music but this shyt had direct influence on Jamaican DJ sound system battles decades later. Right. Got ya. Jamaicans traveled to the US after World War II where they witnessed and brought back cutting edge recording and DJing sound systems that weren't available in their own country yet. They also brought back blues and R&b records, being that Jamaica did not yet have it's own recording industry for the most part. From there it took on a life of it's own. What a revelation, genius. Again, American citizens in general, including those of African descent, had access to recording and instrumentation equipment that was not yet available in the Caribbean for antoher few decades to come. How does this negate or lay claim to the unique musical developments that eventually took place in those countries? They'd still be playing on pots and pans if it wasn't for you? LMAO. Cac st0rmfr0nt logic being played out by black people to discredit other black people. Crazy. You're not as smart as you'd like to think you are.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

A Jamaican created hip hop

that narrative has been deaded


"DJ Hollywood and his crowd were the first rapping to the beat, not Herc's crowd" - Melle Mel

The greatest rapper of all time is Jamaican

The concept of rap/dj battles was stolen from Jamaican sound clashes

Battling within the music has always been in ADOS' DNA

 

[audemarzz]

The sad part is ive never in real life seen Jamaicans try to "claim" Hip Hop. .

Queen Of Dancehall Spice Triggers Online Debate On The Origins Of Hip Hop
“You love hip-hop though, but hip-hop came from dancehall, you know that right. The people who started hip-hop was a Jamaican who came to New York,” Spice said of Jamaican artist and reputed hip hop pioneer DJ Kool Herc.
- Spice
- Busta Rhymes
A look at reggae's undoubtable influence on hip-hop
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The mastering of dubbing in reggae allowed an artist to "toast"—the predecessor to rapping or emceeing—over instrumental versions of songs. Jamaican DJs usually existed only to hype up songs, but dubbing pioneer King Tubby set a new standard with his emphasis on giving bass and rhythm a prominent spot on his remixes. Tubby commissioned DJ extraordinaire U-Roy to toast over his head-knocking mixes—which is recognized as the true creation of rapping. There is strong speculation that hip-hop's forefathers—Barbados-born Grandmaster Flash, Jamaica's Kool Herc, and Afrika Bambaataa—gained their inspiration directly by King Tubby and U-Roy." <<< this is wrong

and we were already rapping by the time they started biting radio DJS

Copying nikkas names?
Yeah

COUNT Machuki?
KING Tubby? Oh yeah.

All you do is type and insult, we hit you with hard evidence.
You can't refute the evidence, you recycle and force these narratives about unity - knowing people party, live, and fukk in niches - even within the same race - ESPECIALLY in new york.
Blah blah blah "I can go to a party and everybody's celebrating everything" sounds good, we're correcting lies.
PS, Coke La Rock is NOT Jamaican.
https://rockthebells.com/articles/dj-kool-herc-rec-room-party <<< his parents were from the south and there is technically no such thing as "jamaican toasting".
The Zulu nation said no "rapping" occurred at that party. The party was mythologized.
"Another friend, Coke La Rock — whose moniker stemmed from his love of chocolate milk (Coco) — added to the atmosphere by injecting a touch of Jamaica’s toasting traditions."
Jamaica "what" traditions? You mean AFRICAN AMERICAN RADIO CHAT?
<<< Timestamped. The man said he got it from them/US
"I came back to Jamaica with that"

JUKEBOXES.

 

[audemarzz]

more intersectional babble

The insults and "Reductio Ad Hitlerum" (modified to include st0rmfr0nt for modern tastes) =
Reductio ad Hitlerum (/ˈhɪtlərəm/; Latin for "reduction to Hitler"), also known as playing the Nazi card,[1][2] is an attempt to invalidate someone else's position on the basis that the same view was held by Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party.[3] One example would be that since Hitler was against smoking, this implies that someone who is against smoking is a Nazi
GODSON ACROSS THE BELLY - It proves you LOST ALREADY
You're also attracting those people to the post by repetitively drilling those keywords. Kinda weird "breh"

They STILL got the idea from a battle of the bands.
It's called a "CUTTING CONTEST"
PS: U-Roy credits LOUIS JORDAN as his main influence

 

[audemarzz]

@The Velvet Soul
Are you going to continue typing twitter-glitter screeds with an academic F A G G OT flair, or are you going to provide (nonexistent) counterevidence like a man?
What fallacious technique am I using to goad you, fukk nikka?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Heres the problem

@The Velvet Soul disappears when faced with evidence. Then his night shift as resident American negro plantation enforcer starts again, and he forgets the shyt ever happened
literally addressed with facts and receipts. Yet disingenuously opts out of it for fake embellished and repurposed versions of our history

But that's cool and ok for the fake pannies. Theres no smoke when afram history is being contaminated or molested by outside observers( non fba,Caribbean,African,CAC) it doesn't matter who it is. There is no state you get to be in(pan African) or "type of black" where you get to do that. Where its just cool. DODO bird c00ns like him don't get that

they will come into threads like this ready to fight and defend whatever variable(group X)that's non-FBA

* @NewYorkIsBetterThanDallas you are a fellow nyer but you often do this. Also @Hiphoplives4eva @Amestafuu (Emeritus)

this idiot, assuming he's ados in the first place, overlooks a movement based on lineage-cultural heritage-ethnicity. Something that he could take his own ownership of, like every other intelligent able minded afram that saw the movement, and concentrated on the core notion. Made it their own and recognized the discrepancy we've had pertaining to the concept

No he bushes all that because he has a problem with "butch dykes and a grifter" Not knowing that most of us could give a flying fukk about YouTubers. We were just smart enough to latch on to the core concept. Me personally, I could never stomach a yvette carnell video, for my own personal reasons. That was never the point for me. I respected the adjustment to a discrepancy in the culture that was presented. Most of the "ados chapters" have nothing to do with any of them. Just people who took the concept into their own hands

Koonbuyaes seem to lack this ability. Frequently ignore afram disrespect, because hey who cares:African Americans can afford to divvy out credit to others......right

Nothing is sacred to the bootlick koonbuyae negroes. Who are you to defend yourself. Its because of bytch nikkas and pannies like @The Velvet Soul that people feel comfortable undermining the culture in the first place.Very much in concert with outside observers who have their grievances as well. I know, because he never addresses that in his rants lol. Nikka will come in a thread 15 pages long and somehow miss all that just to address us

We off that


21st century pannie c00n can hold anti ados sentiments while having the cover of being pro black(pan African) is extremely unorthodox

This nikka came in here swinging with the Jamaican narrative. Because of course if you share influences or allow others to take credit in our culture-than that's an example of unity

Nothing about that opinion was informed by actual facts or historical record. Nikka just liked the idea of it

Lack of self cultural preservation.Anything goes as long as there's some semblance of psuedo pannie ideals. Your own culture taking a hit in the process,who cares I guess