Is Joey Bada$$ a better rapper than Jay-Z

[Awesome Wells]

He emulates Jay-Z regularly.
Literally straight taking the flow and rhyme structure used on
Reasonable Doubt.
It's kind of funny actually.

This.

Just spoke about this the other day on here. I fukk with Joey's music, but all he does basically is use the exact same style that Hov did from '95-'97. Only thing is, he doesn't have the flow, cleverness or personality down yet.

He's nowhere near being a better rapper than Jay. He's 18 and he's nice with it, but that doesn't put him on the level of the greats. Nas was 18 killin' shyt too. So were dozens of other legends. I can't give Joey credit for doing what others have done in the past because of his age, just because every other 18 year old sucks today. LOL!! He's still got a ways to go, but he's dope nonetheless.

 

[Patent Leather AJ 1s]

are we really having this convo/argument right now.

They're not even on the same lane, OVERALL.

Joey rambles too fukkin much and will always hit a threshold as "hey look im a wannabe 90's rapper".

I never look just at lyrics but at artistry. OP sounds like a lot of the white kids who think joey is the new nas...he is a niche rapperbut will NEVER. Mark my words NEVER truly blow up (no1 singles, million albums sold etc)

 

[Big Mel]

2 MCs we know Joey isn't spitting better than are Raekwon & Black Thought.

 

[Urbanmiracle]

I put his name on a list and you idiots make a thread about it. Classic

 

[blackslash]

nikka you in here talking about present day Jay-Z would annihilate Joey Bada$$ on a track fukk outta here

If that isn't shytting on him I don't know what is. Joey would hold his own on any track with anybody, especially a present day Jay-Z who's uninspired.

nikkas acting like BP3-MCGH era Jay-Z is spitting on a level that's untouchable by present day talents. STOP IT.

Ur such dumfukk ass nikka

Joey has no sense of song structure...spittin bunch of jumbled up verses with a stale flow..and decent delivery..with a couple of forced homophones.

Hov's music of today is able to move me and is more enjoyable than joey's shyt.

But ya ass dnt understand that this is rap music not rap writing..


Jay's mic presence, delivery, various use of different cadences and flow variation make Joey look amateur

nikka it seems u still dnt understand why i keep fckin wit u askin dat question that ur too much of a bytch to answer.

Is cole a better rapper than pac was in 94?
Is joey badass a betterr rapper than biggie was in 95?

Answer those questions so u can expose urself as an even more smartdumb idiot than u alrdy do

 

[Bbwlover504]

nikkas really hyping up this wack ass nikka hoey sadass

Lil b's angel exodus> any cd hoey ever put out

 

[yo moms]

Earl is a better rapper than joey.

 

[McPiff]

Cotdamn look at all the clowns in here.

 

[Versa]

nikkas really hyping up this wack ass nikka hoey sadass

Lil b's angel exodus> any cd hoey ever put out

This a horrible diss name. Go back to the drawing board immediately.


A year or two from from now when Jay-Z puts out yet ANOTHER average project and ya'll pretend like it's a great album again, remember threads like this.

He feels content putting out safe, uninspired, and empty music because he knows that no matter what his dikk riding fans will co-sign it on some "IT DOESN"T MATTER. HE'S THE BEST RAPPER EVER MAN. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO TRY ANYMORE. HE DID THE BLACK ALBUM 10 YEARS AGO AND HE'S MARRIED TO BEYONCE!!!! "

Jay fans on average have to be some the least critical people I've ever been around, and he knows this.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

joey sucks

 

[vaudevillevillain]

joey has a looooooooong way to go before he can even be compared to jay hova. the nikka hasn't even released an album yet. let that boy cook

 

[vaudevillevillain]

A year or two from from now when Jay-Z puts out yet ANOTHER average project and ya'll pretend like it's a great album again, remember threads like this.

He feels content putting out safe, uninspired, and empty music because he knows that no matter what his dikk riding fans will co-sign it on some "IT DOESN"T MATTER. HE'S THE BEST RAPPER EVER MAN. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO TRY ANYMORE. HE DID THE BLACK ALBUM 10 YEARS AGO AND HE'S MARRIED TO BEYONCE!!!! "

Jay fans on average have to be some the least critical people I've ever been around, and he knows this.

average project, compared to who's? :kdotstare:

 

[Madvillain]

Joey ain't got a verse better than Jay on Shiny Suit Theory or bytch Don't Kill My Vibe. Or Thank You. Or Hov's best on WTT. You wanna compare projects, that's cool, but to act like Joey can just show up and wash Hov on a track is hilarious.

 

[SummerNights]

This thread is terrible

Negged

 

[blackslash]

This a horrible diss name. Go back to the drawing board immediately.


A year or two from from now when Jay-Z puts out yet ANOTHER average project and ya'll pretend like it's a great album again, remember threads like this.

He feels content putting out safe, uninspired, and empty music because he knows that no matter what his dikk riding fans will co-sign it on some "IT DOESN"T MATTER. HE'S THE BEST RAPPER EVER MAN. HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO TRY ANYMORE. HE DID THE BLACK ALBUM 10 YEARS AGO AND HE'S MARRIED TO BEYONCE!!!! "

Jay fans on average have to be some the least critical people I've ever been around, and he knows this.

Irony in this statement is hilarious.
We lacl criticism?
When all u consider in an MC is ya interpretation of lyricism? If that's all it takes to impress u..ur the one who lacks critical listening skills..

We take into account things like mic presence, delivery, flow/flow variation, ability to structure songs, subject matter etc.

But ur ass only believes "lyricism" is all it takes to make a good MC...ur one of those nerd ass nikkaz who tries to turn rap into a mere novel...when i keep tellin u its rap music not rap writing nikka

In conclusion ur the type of fan ur complaining about..

U leave out all the other aspects of MCing and because of that...ur criticisms are narrow, stupid and a lot of times arbitrary.

U needa study up on MCin study up on the greats and understand why they are great so u van get a proper view and a better more critical lens to classify good hip hop and bad hip hop. Until then shut ur stupid foolish lil nikka opinions up and keep it to urself.before u continue to embarass urself in the boooth