Is Kawhi Leanord a superstar

Is Kawhi Leonard a Superstar

  • Yes

    Votes: 34 44.2%
  • No

    Votes: 43 55.8%

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MJ Truth

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i think he would be a more creative offensive player if he was given a chance. I've seen him break down a defense, get in the lane, and make some very advanced, PG-type reads. However, he has to work within the Spurs system, which doesn't allow much freelancing or ball stopping.

He's definitely not on hardens level as a ball handler, but very few are. And that's something he could improve upon I'm sure. He's already so much better off the dribble than when he first came in, that would just be the logical next progression. I just see a guy who has a very good all around offensive game with room to improve still
What I will say is that I won't know until it actually happens. There were guys I thought would be great offensive players in the right situation and then they got in that situation and it didn't pop, and the opposite as well. But I just don't see it with Kawhi. I'll say this though, he strikes me as the type of cat who works on his game hard body in the offseason so I wouldn't be surprised if he DEVELOPED the offensive game to be an elite/superstar level player.
 

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I get debates and shyt but I hate when ppl act like they know what would happen in hypothetical scenarios. "If X team didn't have any injuries they'd have 3 rings by now." "If X player was the main focus he's putting up 15/5/6 stop it B" type of stupid ass opinionated comments. Nobody knows what would happen in those types of scenarios cuz they didn't happen. Anyways Kawhi is a star in this league right now

Exactly. You can only go by what they've done in the past and what they're doing right now. Kawhi has been phenomenal. How is he not a superstar at this point?

It's not what they could be/could have been, but what they've done that makes GOATs the GOATs. Theory is nice, but not the truth.
 

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Absolutely not. If he was the #1 option and a team could focus its defensive game plan on stopping Kawhi Leonard, no way in hell he averages 25, and certainly not in a playoff series. And if Kawhi Leonard is your number one go-to scorer and you need him to get 25 every night to win, that team isn't winning 30 games. I just don't see it. He's not creative offensively at all.

This season, only LeBron James, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook put up more than 25 points per game. You think Kawhi Leonard belongs on that list? :comeon:

So you only base being a superstar on scoring points i see. Foh
 

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Absolutely not. If he was the #1 option and a team could focus its defensive game plan on stopping Kawhi Leonard, no way in hell he averages 25, and certainly not in a playoff series. And if Kawhi Leonard is your number one go-to scorer and you need him to get 25 every night to win, that team isn't winning 30 games. I just don't see it. He's not creative offensively at all.

This season, only LeBron James, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook put up more than 25 points per game. You think Kawhi Leonard belongs on that list? :comeon:

Points Per Game Leaders - All Players
RK PLAYER TEAM GP MPG PTS FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT%
1 Stephen Curry, PG GS 3 40.3 32.0 10.7-25.0 .427 4.7-13.3 .350 6.0-7.3 .818
2 James Harden, SG HOU 3 36.3 30.0 8.0-17.3 .462 2.3-5.3 .438 11.7-12.3 .946
Anthony Davis, PF NO 3 43.7 30.0 11.0-22.3 .493 0.0-0.3 .000 8.0-9.0 .889
4 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF POR 2 42.0 28.0 10.0-27.0 .370 1.5-3.5 .429 6.5-7.5 .867
5 LeBron James, SF CLE 3 42.0 27.0 10.7-22.0 .485 1.0-4.3 .231 4.7-5.7 .824
6 Jimmy Butler, SG CHI 3 44.7 26.7 8.7-17.7 .491 2.0-7.0 .286 7.3-10.0 .733
7 Klay Thompson, SG GS 3 38.3 25.0 8.7-18.3 .473 4.0-8.7 .462 3.7-5.0 .733
8 Monta Ellis, SG DAL 3 38.3 24.7 9.3-21.3 .438 2.3-5.7 .412 3.7-4.7 .786
9 Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 3 33.7 24.3 9.7-15.3 .630 2.0-3.3 .600 3.0-4.3 .692
10 Derrick Rose, PG CHI 3 38.0 24.0 8.3-17.7 .472 3.3-7.3 .455 4.0-4.3 .923


No caping but your statement is partially true, Leonard is top ten in ppg breh.
 

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So you only base being a superstar on scoring points i see. Foh
Where did you get that from? But if you CAN'T score points at a high clip, how can you be a SUPERstar? We're not talking about a very good player. We're not talking about being an All-Star. We're talking about being a superstar, which I classify as basically one of the elite players in the game. Name a SUPERSTAR at that position from history that wasn't able to score at a high clip. I'll wait.
 

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Points Per Game Leaders - All Players
RK PLAYER TEAM GP MPG PTS FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT%
1 Stephen Curry, PG GS 3 40.3 32.0 10.7-25.0 .427 4.7-13.3 .350 6.0-7.3 .818
2 James Harden, SG HOU 3 36.3 30.0 8.0-17.3 .462 2.3-5.3 .438 11.7-12.3 .946
Anthony Davis, PF NO 3 43.7 30.0 11.0-22.3 .493 0.0-0.3 .000 8.0-9.0 .889
4 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF POR 2 42.0 28.0 10.0-27.0 .370 1.5-3.5 .429 6.5-7.5 .867
5 LeBron James, SF CLE 3 42.0 27.0 10.7-22.0 .485 1.0-4.3 .231 4.7-5.7 .824
6 Jimmy Butler, SG CHI 3 44.7 26.7 8.7-17.7 .491 2.0-7.0 .286 7.3-10.0 .733
7 Klay Thompson, SG GS 3 38.3 25.0 8.7-18.3 .473 4.0-8.7 .462 3.7-5.0 .733
8 Monta Ellis, SG DAL 3 38.3 24.7 9.3-21.3 .438 2.3-5.7 .412 3.7-4.7 .786
9 Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 3 33.7 24.3 9.7-15.3 .630 2.0-3.3 .600 3.0-4.3 .692
10 Derrick Rose, PG CHI 3 38.0 24.0 8.3-17.7 .472 3.3-7.3 .455 4.0-4.3 .923


No caping but your statement is partially true, Leonard is top ten in ppg breh.
Breh, that's a fukking three game playoff statistic. :dead: He's top ten in these playoffs, man, come on. He was 35th during the season at about 16 per.
 

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He is a good player but not a superstar. Let's put this in perspective. He has 3 future Hall of Famers on his team, not including coach Popovich that attract attention and can turn it up at any point in the playoffs. Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili all scored in single digits last night but teams know better than to underestimate them. We need to have this discussion after the Hall of Famers on his team retire.
 

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Is it just me or does it seem like for all the winning the Spurs do they seem like they are having the least fun

Kwahi has the look on his face like he's actually working a 9-5 sometimes

You don't have to showboat but goddamn these Spurs teams are emotionless
 

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Is it just me or does it seem like for all the winning the Spurs do they seem like they are having the least fun

Kwahi has the look on his face like he's actually working a 9-5 sometimes

You don't have to showboat but goddamn these Spurs teams are emotionless

they just bout dat business bawse :manny:
 
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