malbaker86
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I hear ya but if you feel that all them are bunched in, then me putting Fitz at 5 isn't some cardinal sin
Is Larry Fitzgerald underrated?
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I hear ya but if you feel that all them are bunched in, then me putting Fitz at 5 isn't some cardinal sin
Larry fitzgerald has more career catches because he has a longer career.For a few years Dre had more catches...who has more CAREER catches.
Also they both had 5 years over 100 catches and the difference in Dre having more receptions in a season than Fitz was like by 5-10 catches. you making it seem like Dre was posting 140 receptions in those years. 115 was Dre's high to 109 to Fitz. Splitting hairs but you can't deny who got into the end zone more by a WIDE margin. 120 to 70
Like I said Art Monk 2.0
malbaker86
Gators
He's played about the same length of Moss and TO
So do you hold Jerry Rice to the same "Art Monk" standard cause he played for 20 years
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TO, Moss, and JErry, hands down had periods where they were the hands down best WRs in the league. Again, Larry has never had that.He's played about the same length of Moss and TO
So do you hold Jerry Rice to the same "Art Monk" standard cause he played for 20 years
malbaker86
Gators
So it was ok for Rice to do it bc he's the GOAT but not Fitz cuz he was never "hands down" the best WR in the league?
I literally said Rice, Moss, and TO had periods when they were the best WRs in the league, that was never the case for Larry his whole career.
He was always second fiddle to those before him, those who came in with him, and those who came in after him.
malbaker86
Gators
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
Games played:He's played about the same length of Moss and TO
So do you hold Jerry Rice to the same "Art Monk" standard cause he played for 20 years
Moss 218
Owens 219
Fitz 250
malbaker86
Gators
That's why i said about the same. Somebody in this thread earlier posted all 3 of there stats during the length of time both Moss and TO played amd Fitz stats hold up to those two
He is overlooked
He's steady and constantly great.
It's cause he plays on the steady irrelevant cardinals.
Look at his numbers in the same amount of years as Moss and T.O.
Them playoff numbers tho
He aint heads apart from them in the least bit.
Let's not act like T.O. and Moss aint have stinker years Early T.O. had the dropsies like a muthafukka and I cant tell you what he did after he left the boys.
Randy had a trash year with the Raiders then had a bomb year with the Pats then what?
Their stars just shined brighter that's all
Now post the per game stats
Cool, but again what about Tim Brown, Andre Reed, how is he better than Andre Johnson.Which is why i rated those three you named higher on my all time list
Hell he isn't better than Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Tory ****, Calvin Johnson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant, and other contemporaries.
Again I think Larry is a fine WR, HoF worthy, but you will never be top of the mountain WR, when you were never the most dominant WR of the league during your career and he wasnt.
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malbaker86
Gators
How is he not better than them in your opinion?
Yall talk about having Anquan but you mentioned
Wayne & 88
AB
****
When they also had damn good #2's next to them. All of those WR's you mentioned to me are in the same tier as Fitz. It's interchangable which is why i stated in another post it's not a cardinal sin to list him as the 5th greatest WR and im not gonma argue anyone who doesn't have him in their top 5
Easy, Wayne took the mantle from Marvin and became the best WR in the league. Marvin was the best in the league.
AB was the best in the league.
**** became the guy after taking the mantle from Bruce, who also held that mantle.
Again at no time was Larry ever the best WR in football, and thats why he can never be considered Mt. Rushmore material.
I'm still waiting though, can you tell me why you would put Larry over Tim Brown and Andre Reed.
murksiderock
Superstar
He is overlooked
He's steady and constantly great.
It's cause he plays on the steady irrelevant cardinals.
Look at his numbers in the same amount of years as Moss and T.O.
Them playoff numbers tho
He aint heads apart from them in the least bit.
Let's not act like T.O. and Moss aint have stinker years Early T.O. had the dropsies like a muthafukka and I cant tell you what he did after he left the boys.
Randy had a trash year with the Raiders then had a bomb year with the Pats then what?
Their stars just shined brighter that's all
Those stats aren't really relevant as Fitz played the duration of the 2010s where 5000 yard passers and 150+ targets became the norm. We all know the 10s became much more pass-centric and TO was out in '10 and Moss only played two seasons this decade...
Those guys are older so were at the end of the road, imagine Moss and Owens playing in this era. Between the two of them they only had one 1500 yard season, while Julio has already done that three times. Benefit of the era...
So if you compare Fitz to those guys the numbers aren't the best way to go unless context is provided. Fitz was 27 and very much within his prime at the top of the decade, the other guys were not and didn't have the benefit of playing in the passing explosion if the 10s...
To me there's a sharp distinction from Fitz to those guys. Of course he has moments in his day, but he couldn't take over and dominate a football game with regularity the way TO and Moss could. Moss wanted in effort at times and TO definitely didn't have the most trustworthy hands but those guys were dynamic everywhere else...
I think my main thing with Fitz isn't that he's an All-Timer, because he is. But he's kind of within the pack of several great receivers of his day and at this point I think most people would say Julio is probably greater peak for peak, so add Julio to Harrison and Andre and Calvin, where exactly is Fitz standing out from guys, either than the fact he's played longer? You get points for durability but not so many points that it can be ignored other guys were better in the era in which you played at your peak...
